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Eileen
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5 May 2010 19:24 |
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Hi Jonesey thank you once again for all your efforts what a lot of info you have found. Ime really surprised to see all these relatives that I didnt know about. I love your comment re the Hewitts if only they were as easy as the Robinson/Lathams all would be well!! I cant wait to show all this to my sisters they will love it. Thanks Eileen
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 19:20 |
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To Sue and Christina Thank you so much for all the info. I am really excited by what you have found, It seems incredible that our parents didnt tell us more about the past thanks for everything
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 17:50 |
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Eileen, This lot are easier to find than the Hewitt mob (Lol)
1881: Name: Richard Latham Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Rainford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rainford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Richardsons Brow Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Latham 51 born Rainford occ Ag Lab Alice Latham 53 born Rainford James Latham 22 William Latham 19 John Latham 17 Ann Latham 15 Richard Latham 7
1861: Name: John Leetham [John Latham] Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Rainford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rainford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age John Leetham 30 Alice Leetham 31 Alice Leetham 10 Jane Leetham 5 James Leetham 2 Willm Leetham 2 Mo >> Marriage: 1 Jul 1850 All Saints, Rainford, Lancashire, England John Latham - (X), 21 Laborer Bachelor of Rainford Alice Pinnington - (X), 20 Spinster of Rainford Groom's Father: James Latham, Laborer Bride's Father: William Pinnington, Laborer Witness: James Lomax, (X); Jane Lomax, (X) Married by Banns by: John Groom Minister Register: Marriages 1849 - 1868, Page 30, Entry 60 Source: LDS Film 1657567
1841: Name: John Latham Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Prescot Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Hill 25 Ellen Walter 18 Edward Walter 15 John Latham 10
>> 1841: Name: Alice Pennington [Alice Pinnington] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Prescot Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Pennington 45 Jane Pennington 15 Alice Pennington 10 Mary Pennington 5
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 17:08 |
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Eileen,
Janie's parents (Your grandparents) marriage:
Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Critchley Jane Elizabeth Prescot 8b 1150 Latham Richard Prescot 8b 1150
Probable birth for Janie's parents:
Births Mar 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Critchley Jane Prescott 8b 707
Births Jun 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latham Richard Prescott 8b 717
>>This looks interesting in 1881. Ignore the surname Crutch and in all probability the relationship (Neice). I think it is your grandmother with her parents:
1881: Name: Jane Crutch Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Eccleston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Eccleston in Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Gracious St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Critchley 38 born Eccleston occ brick maker Jane Critchley 33 born Eccleston Mary Atherton 13 neice James Atherton 8 nephew Jane Crutch 5 Emma Crutch 3 Thomas Crutch 11mths
>>Your great grandmothers 1st marriage:
Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATHERTON Jane Prescott 8b 932 Critchley Henry Prescott 8b 932
>>Your Great grandmothers 2nd marriage:
Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blundell William Prescot 8b 943 Critchley Jane Prescot 8b 943
>>1871: Name: Jane Atherton Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Eccleston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Eccleston Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 87 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Atherton 54 born Kirby, Lancs occ carter Elizabeth Atherton 52 born Eccleston Jane Atherton 22 Mary Atherton 3 (Granddaughter??)
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 16:48 |
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Thanks for all the info, I must get the evening meal on the go. If you have time later can you look further back on the older census list. thanks Eileen
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Christina
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5 May 2010 16:15 |
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this is Sues family in 1901:-
about Jane Lathans Name: Jane Lathans Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation: Granddaughter Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Rainford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rainford Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 19 Household Members: Name Age James Latham 72 James Latham 40 Margaret Mc Donald 45 Ellen Lathans 32 Jane Lathans 5 Mary Lathans 3 Millicent Lathans 7 months
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Sue C
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5 May 2010 15:51 |
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So could this be her in 1911?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATHAM, James Head Widower M 49 1862 Farm Carter On Farm Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Ellen Sister Single F 42 1869 Housekeeper Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Mary Daughter F 13 1898 Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Millicent Niece F 10 1901 School Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Gertrude Niece F 6 1905 School Lancashire Rainford LATHAM, Joseph Nephew M 3 1908 Lancashire Rainford
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22812 Reference: RG14PN22812 RG78PN1334 RD456 SD6 ED2 SN90 Registration District: Prescot Sub District: Rainford Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Rainford Address: 12 Mosbro Road Rainford County: Lancashire
Edit.....no the other one in Crank looks more likely.
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:46 |
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Your correct again my maths arnt what they used to be she was born 1896
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 15:46 |
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Births Sep 1896 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LATHAM Janie Prescot 8b 786
Her death was registered in Berkshire according to Ancestry but the actual register says Widnes:
Name: Janie Robinson Death Registration Month/Year: 1968 Age at death (estimated): 72 Registration district: Windsor Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 10f Page: 829
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:44 |
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Yes I have the info here in fact last week I visited Rainford church graveyard and found the head stones Janie died 15-10-68 and she was 72 Thomas died 8-1-65 age 76 Having this info set me off again to trace theheir history too.
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 15:41 |
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Here is the 1911 for the Janie that Sue found:
MIDDLEHURST, Mary Helen Head Single F 27 1884 Householder Farm Farmer Crank Lancashire VIEW JOHNSON, Annie Servant Single F 30 1881 Servant Domestic St Helens Lancashire VIEW >>>LATHAM, Jane Servant F 14 1897 Servant Domestic Crank Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22814 Reference: RG14PN22814 RG78PN1334 RD456 SD6 ED4 SN72 Registration District: Prescot Sub District: Rainford Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Rainford Address: Higher Farm Crank Rainford County: Lancashire
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:41 |
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Thanks Sue, I did'nt know any of this info so its great to see. Just noticed that one of the children is named Emma, which I didnt know. We called our youngest Emma too, history repeating it self with out us knowing thanks
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 15:34 |
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No worries Sue, the more the merrier.
In her post Eileen put Janie's birth year as 1890. I am struggling to find an appropriate one in the 1891,1901 and 1911 census returns so maybe your 1897 is right. She would have been old enough to marry in 1917.
Eileen, any idea when and where your grandmother died? If after 1964 then an indication of her birthdate should appear on the death register.
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:34 |
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Im'e just smiling to my self if that marriage date is correct, they only just made it up the isle before my mum Kate was born on 11-7-1917- "well I never" lol
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Sue C
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5 May 2010 15:30 |
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Sorry Jonesy......didn't see your offer until after I had posted.
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Sue C
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5 May 2010 15:26 |
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Poss 1901
LATHAM, Richard Head Married M 27 1874 Bricklayer's Labourer Rainford Lancashire LATHAM, Jane Wife Married F 24 1877 Eccleston Lancashire LATHAM, Janie Daughter Single F 4 1897 Rainford Lancashire LATHAM, Richard H Son Single M 12 1889 Windle Lancashire LATHAM, Emma Daughter Single F 0 (5 MOS) 1901 Rainford Lancashire BLUNDELL, Jane Mother-In-Law Married F 53 1848 Eccleston Lancashire CRITCHLEY, James Brother-In-Law Single M 28 1873 Ord Farm Labourer Eccleston Lancashire CRITCHLEY, Thomas Brother-In-Law Single M 20 1881 Ord Farm Labourer Eccleston Lancashire V
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 3528 Folio: 51 Page: 9 Registration District: Prescot Sub District: Rainford Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: Rainford Municipal Borough: Address: Crank, Rainford County: Lancashire
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 15:20 |
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Possible:
Births Jun 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latham Jane Prescot 8b 695
I will look up on 1901 and 1911 census.
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:14 |
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Thanks Jonesey You are spot on I am havin a senior moment grandad was Thomas not Jack Ive just changed the heading thanks Eileen
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Jonesey
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5 May 2010 15:11 |
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Name more likely to be Latham rather than Lathom.
May be a red herring but you never know:
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latham Jane Robinson Prescot 8b 1023 Robinson Thomas Latham Prescot 8b 1023
Will look for the kids births.
Name: Kate Robinson Mother's Maiden Surname: Latham Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1917 Registration district: Prescot Registration county: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 1249
Maybe Jack: Name: John Robinson Mother's Maiden Surname: Latham Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920 Registration district: Prescot Registration county: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 2080
Name: Thomas R Robinson Mother's Maiden Surname: Latham Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1924 Registration district: Prescot Registration county: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 1489
Maybe Joan: Name: Elizabeth J Robinson Mother's Maiden Surname: Latham Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1929 Registration district: Prescot Registration county: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 1342
Name: Alice B Robinson Mother's Maiden Surname: Latham Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1931 Registration district: Prescot Registration county: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 1345
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Eileen
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5 May 2010 15:01 |
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Hello all you good people, could I please have some help with tracing my maternal grandmothers side of the family. I have exhausted myself and GR members too I expect, trying to find my Dads family. So I thought I would try to find my mums family now. How hard can it be!!!! I think Janie's maiden name was Lathom and likely born in Rainford Lancashire, she married Thomas Robinson and they had children Jack,Joan, Katie, Alice Brenda, Thomas. They lived in a place called Crank, nr Rainford. Lancashire. I don't know much about the Lathom family, so it would be great to find out where they lived what they did for a living, and what children they had. I would be most grateful for any help that you all can offer, regards Eileen
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