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Thanks again Somerset Girl

Hi girls I have just noticed that Providence Hospital was in Tolver St and Woodville Street What a coincidence, my Dad was registered in 1914 from 18 Woodville Street, the home of his mother Edith. I know that it was a house cos Ive got it on the 1911 census.

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Hi somerset girl, I have just found a little bit of info on google. In the 1900s there was two other hospitals in St Helens St Mary's which was run by nuns, and Cowley Hill Hospital which was a maternity Hospital!!!! Seeing as Sister Smart was involved in some way at the birth of my father I wonder if she was at this Hospital it would be possible I supose, if you can help with this one too I would be very grateful thanks Eileen By the way how on earth did you find all that info on the Hospital, you are very clever!!!!!

Thanks girls the list for the hospital is really good, I will study it to see if I can recognise anyone, I dont know if there was another hospital in St Helens in 1911 this is the only one I know of. That is Mary in 1901 I already have that list and it is Skerry not Kerry, Mary was my dads "adoptive mother" Well done your all brilliant regards Eileen

ummmm couldnt find them on ancestry for that year but no extra daughter I see

I have been trying to find them in 1891 then the missing girl maybe found but not having much luck

Thanks for all your help reegards Eileen

no just Mary and Nellie. There is Grace as well but she is married by 1911 to Fred Woodstock. I thought I was going mad then I thought you had them at Claughton Street lol

those three are all on the 1911 census Nellie is Ellen Grace is married

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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WOODSTOCK, Frederick Head Married
9 years M 31 1880 Glass Flattener St Helens Lanc VIEW
WOODSTOCK, Grace Wife Married
9 years F 31 1880 St Helens Lanc VIEW
WOODSTOCK, Frederick Son M 3 1908 St Helens Lanc VIEW
WOODSTOCK, Norman Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 St Helens Lanc VIEW
SMART, Austin Brother-In-Law Single M 21 1890 Glass Trimmer St Helens Lanc VIEW
SMART, Ellen Sister-In-Law Single F 27 1884 St Helens Lanc VIEW
SMART, Mary Sister-In-Law Single F 25 1886 St Helens Lanc VIEW
WOODSTOCK, Ethel Sister Single F 28 1883 Shop Assistant Liverpool Lanc VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22771 Reference:
RG14PN22771 RG78PN1333 RD456 SD5 ED17 SN169

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
St Helens

Address:
70 Claughton St St Helens Lancashire

Were there more than 3 girls in the family then? I'm just seeing Grace,Mary and Ellen/Nellie-all of whom are on the 1911 census together.

Maureen

yes 50 Lyon street Grace says housekeeper at home and Nellie is blank

Ime a bit confused I have looked back on my paper work is this the record for 70 Claughton Street in 1901? cos I have this family at 50 Lyon Street in 1901 can you confirm

Thanks Yes this is the family, does it give any occupations for the girls

I found it but only by flicking through every house in the street it didnt come up on list.

is this the family

Name: Austin Smart
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul and St Thomas
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Household Members: Name Age
George Smart 50
Grace Smart 22
George Smart 20
Nellie Smart 18
Austin Smart 13

by the way 70 Claughton St is recorded on the 1911 census, and its still there today thanks for your help

Yes I have them all recorded on all the census records but no nurse smart thats why I thought that she may be in the nurses home, its just 1911 that im'e interested in, it being the closes to my dads birth in 1914

I can only find number 14 claughton st!!! if you know the family names have you looked for them in 1901 or 1891?

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