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Name: Mary Baier
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1862
Father's Name: Gottlieb Baier .....skin dresser
Mother's name: Martha Baier
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Matthew, City Road
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Family lived 3 City Garden Row
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Name: John William Baier
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Mar 1864 ..........born 20 February
Father's Name: Gottlabh Baier ........furrier
Mother's name: Margaret Baier ????????
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Family lived 9 Pear Tree Street
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Name: William Frederic Baier
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Oct 1871 ........born 5 September 1870
Father's Name: Gotlip Baier ..............................skin dresser
Mother's name: Sarah Baier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Family lived at 3 John Street

Welcome to the boards, Peter. It is some time since David started this thread. It might be better to contact him through GR. Click on his name to send him a message. If he still has the same email address, GR will advise him of your message.

Peter

I'll post the marriage for details..............

Name: Sarah Cope
Spouse Name: Gottlieb Baier ........widower, skin dresser
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Jun 1869
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Cope ............Black lead worker
Spouse Father Name: Gottlieb Baier .............butcher
Register Type: Parish Register

No ages shown, just Full Age.
Groom's address 4 Church Passage
Bride's address.... Suffolk Cottage

I think that Gottlieb Baier's second wife Sarah Cope (marriage 1869) was my great grandfather James Cope's sister. My Sarah Cope was born in Stratford West Ham in 1838 and orphaned in 1850

I have found what could be her in service in London in 1851 & 61 (her age is consistently wrong but I don't think this is a problem) and then the marriage in 1869. She gives her father's name at the wedding as James but actually it was Thomas. Because of being orphaned I think this is understandable

What do you all think?
Peter

Thank you very much all you lovely people.....you've helped me a great deal
Regards Dave

1901 census
Name: Gottleib Baier
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: German Subject, Germany

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 49 Carpenters Rd

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 371
Household Members:
Name Age
Gottleib Baier 67 occ Skin Dresser
Martha Baier 55
Charles Bryant 33 Stepson Widower occ Canal Mariner
Alice Bryant 21 Boarder occ Paint Maker
William Bryant 14 occ Warehouse Boy

All apart from Gottlieb born Stratford

1911 census transcription details for: Forest House Branch Of The West Ham Union Workhouse, FOREST HOUSE BRANCH OF WEST HAM WORKHOUSE

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN9674 RD188 SD9 ED42 SN9999


Reg. District: West Ham Sub District: North Leyton
Parish: Low Leyton Enum. District: 42
Address: James Lane Leytonstone N E
County: Essex

BAIER, Gottlieb Inmate Widower M 77 1834 Slaughterer Cattle Bavaria Westberg Resident

Maureen

you didnt give her name but found it anyway

Name: Martha Bryant
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Spouse Name: Gottlieb Baier
Spouse Age: 48
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1886
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Thornton
Spouse Father Name: Gottlieb Baier
address for both 47 Hare Street

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
BAIER Martha 60 W. Ham 4a 4

hi
Deaths Sep 1914 (>99%)
Baier Gottlieb 81 W.Ham 4a 41

You forgot to give your gt grandmother's name; is this the marriage?

Name: Gottlieb Baier occ Skin Dresser
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Spouse Name: Martha Bryant
Spouse Age: 40
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1886
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Gottlieb Baier (deceased) Butcher
Spouse Father Name: James Thornton occ Labourer

On Christmas day in 1886 my great-grandmother re-married in Bethnal green. St. Judes church. the mans name was gotlieb
baier. a german.would be grateful for any info about their deaths or where abouts after that. Regards dave