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Hi guys & gals,

Have abit of a conundrum. Looking for the marriage of a Henry R Couling.

I have been looking, and the answer is this:

Name: Henry R Couling
Spouse Surname: Drew Or Fallan
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Registration district: Reading
Registration county (inferred): Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 975

Thing is...which is it......?.....Drew or Fallan?

Henry was born in Lambourne, Berkshire, in 1884,
and was living with his siter Sarah Ann at 20 Wykeham Road, Reading, Berkshire, England in 1911.

Did Sarah pass away...or did he just get married and move out?...but to who.?

And idea would be most helpful.

He is my grt grt grt uncle.

Paul

This looks like Martina in 1911 census

1911 census transcription details for: 20 Amherst Road Reading

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN6598 RG78PN327 RD121 SD2 ED19 SN148


Reg. District: Reading Sub District: St Giles
Parish: Reading Enum. District: 19

Address: 20 Amherst Road Reading
County: Berkshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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DREW, Martina Wife Married F 23 1888 Leister

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DREW, Shulah Daughter M 2 1909 Bristol Clifton

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if that is how it is listed , then she presumably went by both names, or are there two seperate girls?

update- looked it up - went by both names by the look of it

Marriages Dec 1917 (97%)
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Couling Henry R Drew Reading 2c 975
Couling Henry R Mallen Reading 2c 975
Drew Martina Couling Reading 2c 975
Fallan Martina Couling Reading 2c 975
Smith William Stokes Reading 2c 975

Cheers Guys.....oops Gals..
:)

So...no nearer knowing...who?....lol...crazy one this..
Surely she can't register under 2 names?..

Looks like she is listed as Martina drew in 1911

I found him in 1911 Barbara..and he is living with sister.....and no sign of a wife.

Hi Minnie...my great grandmothers name was Minnie... :-)

So...name was Drew in 1911...but Fallan in 1917 when she married?...

Two surnames for a female on the index usually (not always) implies a previous marriage.

The cert would confirm.

Ah...so Fallan might have been her maiden name before she named a Drew..then used her maiden name when she married Henry?...

I think the 2 year old in 1911 is actually a SHEILA.

her birth cert might hold some clues

DREW Shelia Bristol 6a 56 June Qtr 1909

One senario is that she had a child by Mr Drew - Sheila- assumed the name Drew for for respectability, never actually married him, so had to register both when she maried- actual and asumed name

Sheila's birth cert will prob hold the clue

Cheers Minnie.....looks like it..
Only the cert will confirm......

Still waiting for last order...back log from the rush for orders when the price when up on the 6th.
I ordered on the 5th..and still waiting!!

Cheers folks for your efforts.. :)

Well Budgie Rustler...interesting theory.

It just seems rather strange she registered under 2 different names....
Got a few mysteries in my family...
meant to have an aunt killed by a v1 in ww2.....but no sign of her..and a illegitimate child of my grandmother with GI in ww2...but there maybe something in that one as the child has a name.. Colin ..but taken back to US with the GI.

If this is Henry in 1911 census then he was down as Sarah Ann's SON ---Have you found them on other Census ?

1911 census transcription details for: 20 Wykeham Road Reading

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN6598 RG78PN327 RD121 SD2 ED19 SN318


Reg. District: Reading Sub District: St Giles
Parish: Reading Enum. District: 19

Address: 20 Wykeham Road Reading
County: Berkshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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COULING, Sarah Ann Single F 43 1868 Teacher Of The Piano Reading Berks

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COULING, Henry Richard Son Single M 28 1883 Plasterer Raugh Bourne Berks

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GROVER, George Boarder Widower M 76 1835 Builder Reading Berks

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Down as Brother on 1901 census --same address as 1911 --

but I love this on 1891 census --I think it means Grandson (to head of Household)

1891 England Census 1891 England Census
Name: Henry R Cowling
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Half Son >>>>>>
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambourne, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Reading
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Reading
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Cowling 59
Sarah A Cowling 60
Sarah A Cowling 25
Emily A Cowling 23
Henry R Cowling 6


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 998; Folio 81; Page 24; GSU roll: 6096108.

Hi Barbara,

Sorry not replied...got attention taken else where..you know how it is.

I have seen that census.....was thinking it meant Henry was Sarah's (wife) step son..and a child by Richard from another women....controversial?

Emily being my grt grt grandmother..Married William Thomas May in 1893 Reading.

So your saying Henry could be Sarah's son (daughter)?
So whos the father?....

I have Henry set as Sarahs brother right now....as it doesnt say who's his mother..assuming the head women (wife) was his mother.


More mystery
:)

Hi Paul

All I am saying is that Henry MAYBE Sarah's SON ( it does say son on 1911 census which I have copied out for you on previous page)


You have asked
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"So your saying Henry could be Sarah's son (daughter)?
So whos the father?...."
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Sorry, Paul, choose who is Mum was I really couldn't tell you who his Father was --I wasn't there :-) ( I hope you take that as a little joke, Paul, as it was meant to be --I will delete it if it upsets you )

However if you would like to know who his Mum was this looks like his birth index to send for his birth cert.

Births Dec (quarter) 1884

COULING Henry Richard
Bradfield 2c 355

Best wishes
Barbara xx

Cheers Barbara. :)

No probs....I can take a joke ..hehehe.
One of my certs has turned up..should be 5..only got 1 in the post.

Its of the marriage of my grt grt grandfather ....I think....on my fathers side.

I just can't say anything for sure on my fathers side...I just can't confirm anything ..even with certs....!!.Very frustarting.

Nothings seems simple in my tree..always somethings to throw doubt on it..no matter what I buy and research.....

Doesn't help that most of my family are dead..including aunts & uncles...so no-one to ask.

Oh well...

Cheers! Barbara

Hi Paul
Sending you a PM
Barbara x