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11 Apr 2010 14:03 |
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I have a Mathilda Woodall married to David Jones. My problem is that I can't find their marriage certificate. I have one for a Matilda Woodall and David Jones, but her father is down as James Woodall (1 April 1877, Old Swinford, Worcs). According to the 1901 Census for Matilda and David, her father was Joseph.
I have a census return from 1871 where there is a Matilda Woodall and David Jones both from Worcestershire lodging at an address in Rotherham, Yorkshire. By 1873 They were presumably married and had had their first child, Joseph.
Can anyone help me find their correct marriage certificate?
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Potty
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11 Apr 2010 14:05 |
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Is her father's occupation different on the marriage cert to the census?
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11 Apr 2010 14:08 |
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MATILDA WOODHALL Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 OCT 1824 Old Swinford, Worcester, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: BENJAMIN WOODHALL Family Mother: ANN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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11 Apr 2010 14:12 |
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The 1901 census, for info: 1901 England Census about Matilda Jones Name: Matilda Jones [Matilda Woodhall] Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: David Father's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age David Jones 51 Matilda Jones 49 Martha Jones 15 James Jones 13 Florrie Jones 11 Joseph Woodhall 74 All children born West Bromwich
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11 Apr 2010 14:12 |
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James Woodall Compact Disc #135 Pin #2210882 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: 1763 Old Swinford, Worcestershire Christening: 1 Apr 1763 St Mary's, Old Swinford, Worcestershire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Herbert Woodall Disc #135 Pin #2208770 Mother: Phebe Gauden Disc #135 Pin #2208767
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Susan
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11 Apr 2010 14:16 |
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There is no occupation on the 1901 Census. I haven't found a convincing Joseph on the census returns (I have found one but I can place him at a different address in 1901)! James Woodall was a puddler.
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Susan
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11 Apr 2010 14:20 |
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I am reasonably sure that James Woodall is a red herring. I have Matilda down as being born in Dudley in about 1853.
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Potty
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11 Apr 2010 14:30 |
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1861 has a Matilda Woodhall b1853 Dudley, with father Joseph - a puddler.
Maybe the father's name was wrongly entered in the register, or, as the 1877 marriage is after the birth of the first children, it is for a different couple and your pair either married later or not at all!
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Susan
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11 Apr 2010 14:31 |
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I've checked the census returns I have. The only one I'm confident of is 1861. Joseph's occupation is puddler in Dudley.
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Susan
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11 Apr 2010 14:32 |
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I agree about maybe they married later - it wouldn't be the first time I've come across that.
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11 Apr 2010 14:42 |
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What was Matilda's address on the marriage cert you have?
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11 Apr 2010 15:01 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-GR) Pedigree Born: 1750 Place: Christened: 5 Mar 1750 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 3 Oct 1776 Place: Father: Joseph WOODALL (AFN:FGC0-32) Family Mother: Elizabeth (AFN:FGC0-47)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Mary JEWKES (AFN:8DB9-HX) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1752 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 8 Sep 1794 Place: Married: 3 Oct 1776 Place: Father: William JEWKES (AFN:FGC0-5D) Family Mother: Hannah (AFN:FGC0-6K)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name M William WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-X6) Pedigree Born: 2 Jan 1785 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M William WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-VT) Pedigree Born: 6 Jan 1782 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:8DBB-31) Pedigree Born: 27 Oct 1793 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name F Mary WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-TN) Pedigree Born: 10 Mar 1779 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name F Jane WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-W1) Pedigree Born: 10 Apr 1783 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M Simon WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-ZC) Pedigree Born: 7 May 1786 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name F Hannah WOODALL (AFN:8DBB-2T) Pedigree Born: 10 Jun 1792 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:8DBB-0H) Pedigree Born: 15 Jun 1788 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng Died: CHILD Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Nancy WOODALL (AFN:8DBB-1N) Pedigree Born: 5 Sep 1790 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
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11 Apr 2010 15:02 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:36N9-9C) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1817 Place: Father: Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Mary Ann SMART (AFN:36N9-BJ) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1819 Place: Father: Mother: Mary (AFN:C3WN-PQ)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name M Samuel WOODALL (AFN:36N9-RR) Pedigree Born: 4 Jan 1855 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:36N9-QL) Pedigree Born: 29 Jan 1853 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Thomas WOODALL (AFN:36N9-T4) Pedigree Born: 28 Mar 1868 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name M Alfred WOODALL (AFN:36N9-V9) Pedigree Born: 28 Mar 1871 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name M Charles WOODALL (AFN:36N9-3B) Pedigree Born: 30 Mar 1861 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 21 Feb 1928 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:36N9-M3) Pedigree Born: 10 Apr 1848 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M Walter WOODALL (AFN:36N9-SX) Pedigree Born: 4 Jul 1866 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name M Titus WOODALL (AFN:36N9-PF) Pedigree Born: 24 Aug 1851 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Elizabeth WOODALL (AFN:36N9-N8) Pedigree Born: 30 Dec 1849 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name F Mary Jane WOODALL (AFN:36N9-WG) Pedigree Born: 30 Dec 1872 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
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11 Apr 2010 15:03 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-51) Pedigree Born: 15 Oct 1693 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Christened: Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 23 Nov 1769 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 2 Sep 1716 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: John WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-9P) Family Mother: Mary HOLLYS (AFN:1P3B-BV)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Phebe HADLEY (AFN:1P3B-66) Pedigree Born: 8 Jul 1692 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 5 Feb 1747 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 2 Sep 1716 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: Job HADLEY (AFN:8DB9-8Q) Family Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Ann WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-FJ) Pedigree Born: 1723 Place: Christened: 26 Mar 1723 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 25 Jan 1735 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name F Prudence WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-LD) Pedigree Born: 1731 Place: Christened: 1 Dec 1731 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Job WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-3N) Pedigree Born: 22 Feb 1725 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 14 Sep 1794 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-C6) Pedigree Born: 30 Mar 1719 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name M William WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-J2) Pedigree Born: 23 Apr 1729 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 15 Oct 1730 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name F Mary WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-PW) Pedigree Born: 25 May 1737 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M Jonas WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-NQ) Pedigree Born: 21 Jul 1734 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name F Phebe WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-DC) Pedigree Born: 14 Aug 1721 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Elizabeth WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-GP) Pedigree Born: 20 Nov 1723 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 25 Jan 1735 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-K7) Pedigree Born: 25 Nov 1729 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 28 Nov 1729 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Sex Name M Abraham WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-MK) Pedigree Born: 5 Dec 1731 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. Sex Name F Rebecka WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-HV) Pedigree Born: 13 Dec 1728 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 13 Dec 1728 Place:
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11 Apr 2010 15:03 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-51) Pedigree Born: 15 Oct 1693 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Christened: Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 23 Nov 1769 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 2 Sep 1716 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: John WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-9P) Family Mother: Mary HOLLYS (AFN:1P3B-BV)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Phebe HADLEY (AFN:1P3B-66) Pedigree Born: 8 Jul 1692 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 5 Feb 1747 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 2 Sep 1716 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: Job HADLEY (AFN:8DB9-8Q) Family Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Ann WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-FJ) Pedigree Born: 1723 Place: Christened: 26 Mar 1723 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 25 Jan 1735 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name F Prudence WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-LD) Pedigree Born: 1731 Place: Christened: 1 Dec 1731 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Job WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-3N) Pedigree Born: 22 Feb 1725 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 14 Sep 1794 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-C6) Pedigree Born: 30 Mar 1719 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name M William WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-J2) Pedigree Born: 23 Apr 1729 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 15 Oct 1730 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name F Mary WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-PW) Pedigree Born: 25 May 1737 Place: Dudley, Worcs, Eng
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M Jonas WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-NQ) Pedigree Born: 21 Jul 1734 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name F Phebe WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-DC) Pedigree Born: 14 Aug 1721 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Elizabeth WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-GP) Pedigree Born: 20 Nov 1723 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 25 Jan 1735 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-K7) Pedigree Born: 25 Nov 1729 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 28 Nov 1729 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Sex Name M Abraham WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-MK) Pedigree Born: 5 Dec 1731 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. Sex Name F Rebecka WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-HV) Pedigree Born: 13 Dec 1728 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 13 Dec 1728 Place:
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11 Apr 2010 15:04 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-1B) Pedigree Born: 30 Oct 1771 Place: Tansley Hall, Worcs, England Christened: 3 Nov 1771 Place: Died: 12 Feb 1843 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Married: 20 May 1793 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: Job WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-3N) Family Mother: Rebeckah WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-4T)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Mary HARRISON (AFN:1P3B-2H) Pedigree Born: 29 May 1776 Place: St Thomas Parish, Dudley, Worcestershire, England Christened: 29 May 1775 Place: St Thomas Parish, Dudley, Worcs, England Died: 25 Sep 1849 Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Married: 20 May 1793 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England Father: Edward HARRISON (AFN:1P3D-1L) Family Mother: Mary CLAYTON (AFN:1P3D-2R)
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Tabitha WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-Z5) Pedigree Born: 1817 Place: Christened: 23 May 1817 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 4 Oct 1820 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M Thomas WOODALL (AFN:1P3C-09) Pedigree Born: 1819 Place: Christened: 6 Oct 1819 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Tabitha WOODALL (AFN:P6P0-1G) Pedigree Born: 1817 Place: Christened: 23 May 1817 Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England Died: 4 Oct 1820 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name F Sarah WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-L8) Pedigree Born: 16 Jan 1798 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 9 Feb 1831 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-TG) Pedigree Born: 11 Feb 1810 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M William WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-HQ) Pedigree Born: 11 Mar 1793 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M James WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-NL) Pedigree Born: 29 Jun 1801 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name F Ann WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-VM) Pedigree Born: 18 Jul 1811 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Charlotte WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-PR) Pedigree Born: 8 Aug 1802 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name M Thomas WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-R4) Pedigree Born: 30 Aug 1807 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 29 Mar 1809 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Sex Name F Elizabeth WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-WS) Pedigree Born: 8 Sep 1812 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 4 Aug 1830 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. Sex Name M Job WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-QX) Pedigree Born: 30 Sep 1805 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13. Sex Name F Rebecca WOODALL (AFN:1P37-84) Pedigree Born: 2 Nov 1803 Place: Shaver, Worcs, England Died: 11 Sep 1882 Place: Fountain Green, Sanpete, Ut Buried: 14 Sep 1882 Place: Spanish Fork, Utah, Ut
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. Sex Name F Mary WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-MF) Pedigree Born: 4 Nov 1799 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15. Sex Name M Emanuel WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-X0) Pedigree Born: 6 Nov 1814 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16. Sex Name M Edward WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-JW) Pedigree Born: 9 Nov 1794 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 9 Feb 1831 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17. Sex Name M Solomon WOODALL (AFN:1P3B-S9) Pedigree Born: 2 Dec 1808 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
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11 Apr 2010 15:05 |
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crumbs!!! 17 children!
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11 Apr 2010 15:05 |
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Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:FGC0-32) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1724 Place: Father: Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Elizabeth (AFN:FGC0-47) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1728 Place: Father: Mother:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:8DB9-GR) Pedigree Born: 1750 Place: Christened: 5 Mar 1750 Place: Dudley, Worcs, England
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11 Apr 2010 15:06 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Joseph WOODALL (AFN:36N9-9C) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1817 Place: Father: Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Mary Ann SMART (AFN:36N9-BJ) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1819 Place: Father: Mother: Mary (AFN:C3WN-PQ)
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name M Samuel WOODALL (AFN:36N9-RR) Pedigree Born: 4 Jan 1855 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M Joseph WOODALL (AFN:36N9-QL) Pedigree Born: 29 Jan 1853 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Thomas WOODALL (AFN:36N9-T4) Pedigree Born: 28 Mar 1868 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name M Alfred WOODALL (AFN:36N9-V9) Pedigree Born: 28 Mar 1871 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name M Charles WOODALL (AFN:36N9-3B) Pedigree Born: 30 Mar 1861 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng. Died: 21 Feb 1928 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M John WOODALL (AFN:36N9-M3) Pedigree Born: 10 Apr 1848 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name M Walter WOODALL (AFN:36N9-SX) Pedigree Born: 4 Jul 1866 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Sex Name M Titus WOODALL (AFN:36N9-PF) Pedigree Born: 24 Aug 1851 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Sex Name F Elizabeth WOODALL (AFN:36N9-N8) Pedigree Born: 30 Dec 1849 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Sex Name F Mary Jane WOODALL (AFN:36N9-WG) Pedigree Born: 30 Dec 1872 Place: Dudley, Worcs., Eng.
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11 Apr 2010 15:07 |
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JOSEPH WOODALL Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 MAR 1701 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: EDWARD WOODALL Family Mother: ISABELL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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