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Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 21:39

hi
i have a marriage cert for Henry Newey and Ruth Lilley in 1850. Henry's father's name is WRIGHT NEWEY. I was hoping someone might have come across this name in their searches, i cannot get any further back with my search, i have only one match when searching for henry in 1841, he was born 1825/6 but the parents are not readable and i don't know anything else about henry to make sure this is the correct family in 1841, can anyone help
regards densie quinn

patchem

patchem Report 10 Apr 2010 21:47

Could you say what part of the country, please?
Thank-you
Added:
I am assuming it is Lye, Worcestershire, so could you give a reference for the 1841 census?
Thanks

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 21:50

the marriage took place in Dudley, worcester, Henry was born in Lye worcesterchire, i'm assuming they are around the same place
thanks

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 21:52

I have found them in 1851. and can follow them up to present day, i cannot go back any further, if anyone has any tips please feel free to advise me
regards
denise

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 22:12

their occupations were NAILER and the witnesses were Harriett Robbins and Edward cooper

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 22:28

the 1841 census i in woodside, Dudley.
this is the only match i can find for the birth year of henry, but i don't know if this is his family, and i am trying to think of ideas to try to find some more information.

Elliot

Elliot Report 10 Apr 2010 22:30

Name: Henry Newey
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 60
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 70 (click to see others on page)

Elliot

Elliot Report 10 Apr 2010 22:34

There is someone on ancestry who has him in their tree. It looks as if Henry was an illegitimate child:

Beckwith Family Tree
Public Member Tree
5 attached records, 5 sources
Preview
Name: Henry Newey
Birth: Abt 1826 - Lye, Worcestershire, England
Death: 01 Jun 1888 (1 Jun 1888) - Dudley, Staffordshire, England

5 attached records, 5 sources
Henry Newey Ruth Lilley Wright Robins Maria Newey
Henry Newey
Birth: Abt 1826 - Lye, Worcestershire, England
Death: 01 Jun 1888 (1 Jun 1888) - Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Spouse: Ruth Lilley
F: Wright Robins
M: Maria Newey

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 22:37

oh my god i can't believe it, i will contact the person, thankyou very very much, i will let you know how i get on
from a very happy denise
thankyou

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Apr 2010 22:38

1881

Henry NEWEY Head M Male 56 Oldswinford, Worcester, England Horse Nail Maker
Ruth NEWEY Wife M Female 51 Dudley, Worcester, England
Jemima NEWEY Daur U Female 23 Dudley, Worcester, England Nailer
David NEWEY Son U Male 19 Dudley, Worcester, England General Lab
Henry NEWEY Son Male 16 Dudley, Worcester, England Coal Miner Unemployed
Joseph NEWEY Son Male 13 Dudley, Worcester, England
Harriet NEWEY Daur Female 11 Dudley, Worcester, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Stourbridge Rd Holly Hall
Census Place Dudley, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341690
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2878 / 111
Page Number 42

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 22:42

got so excited forgot to ask how i contact the member, i don't use the ancestry site.

Denise

Denise Report 10 Apr 2010 23:01

thankyou to everyone for giving up your time. i've gto loads of information to go through, i can't believe how fast everyone got information.
thanks again
denise

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Apr 2010 00:05

WRIGHT ROBINS Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA NEWEY Family
Marriage: 01 OCT 1827 Old Swinford, Worcester, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
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WRIGHT ROBINS Pedigree
Male

Christening: 25 FEB 1805 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England


Parents:
Father: THOMAS ROBINS Family
Mother: PARTHENA


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 11 Apr 2010 00:07

Denise if you tell me what you want to ask, I will contact the Ancestry person on your behalf.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Apr 2010 00:12


Wright Robins Birth
1805 in Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Death
Dec 1871 in Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire, United Kingdom



Parents & Siblings

No Father Phoenia Robins (1761-)

Spouse & Children

Maria Newey (1804-)
Henry Newey (1826-1888)
Harriet Robins (1832-)
Eliza Chance (1833-)
Wright Chance (1835-)
Mercy Chance (1838-)
Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery
No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet.
Timeline( View details )
1805
Birth Cradley, Worcestershire, England 5 source citations Hide source citations
1871 England Census
1861 England Census
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
1851 England Census
1841 England Census 1841

Age: 36 Residence Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England nailer1 source citation
1841 England Census 1851

Age: 46 Residence Lye, Worcestershire, England nail maker1 source citation Hide source citations
1851 England Census 1861

Age: 56 Residence Lye, Worcestershire, England nail maker1 source citation Hide source citations
1861 England Census 1871

Age: 66 Residence Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England inmate1 source citation
1871 England Census 1871
DecAge: 66 Death Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire, United Kingdom 1 source citation
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Apr 2010 00:17


Henry Newey Birth
abt 1826 in Lye Waste, Worcestershire, England Death
01 JUN 1888 in Low Town, Holly Hall, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Parents & Siblings

Wright Robins (1805-1871) Maria Newey (1804-)

Spouse & Children

Ruth Lilley (1831-1909)
Ann Maria Newey (1852-)
Benjamin Newey (1855-)
Manach Newey (1859-)
William Henry Newey (1860-) Spouse & Children

Unknown Spouse
Maria Newey (1859-)
David Newey (1863-)
Henry Newey (1866-)
Joseph Newey (1868-)
Harriet Newey (1870-)
Timeline( View details )
1826
abtBirth Lye Waste, Worcestershire, England 5 source citations Hide source citations
1861 England Census
1871 England Census
1851 England Census
1881 England Census
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 1851

Age: 25 Residence Lye, Worcestershire, England Nail maker1 source citation Hide source citations
1851 England Census 1861

Age: 35 Residence Dudley, Worcestershire, England 1 source citation Hide source citations
1861 England Census 1871

Age: 45 Residence Dudley, Worcestershire, England Nailer1 source citation Hide source citations
1871 England Census 1881

Age: 55 Residence Dudley, Worcestershire, England Horse nail maker1 source citation Hide source citations
1881 England Census 1888
1 JunAge: 62 Death Low Town, Holly Hall, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Apr 2010 00:21

Wright's parents

PARTHENIA BASHFORD Pedigree
Female Family

Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS ROBINS Family
Marriage: 11 OCT 1795 Old Swinford, Worcester, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Elliot

Elliot Report 11 Apr 2010 12:54

I have contacted this member on Denise's behalf. I also found another member with Wright Robins as father, one more with Wright Newey as father and three others with Henry Newey born Lye, Worcestershire 1826 in their trees, so I contacted them as well.

Denise has sent several PMs to me. I thought I'd post the relevant info here to save duplication of effort. I think she's enjoying researching Wright Robins herself.

i have looked in 1841 for wright robins and have found a family in oldswinford, Lye, I'm getting very excited, harriet robins is in the family and i have a harriet robins as a witness on henry newey's (robins) marriage cert.

i didn't realise about the area in the 1841 census family that has been found. I have looked on LDS and found a Wright Robins marrying a Maria Newey in 1827 in Old Swinford, Worcester. I am trying to find a birth for henry now under both names.

Denise

Denise Report 11 Apr 2010 21:19

i'm getting more confused, i thought the name Wright would be easy to confirm but it seems there's more out there than i thought, i will work through the info all you kind people have researched and will let you know which is relevent to me, thanks to everyone, thanks to david.
regards
denise

Elliot

Elliot Report 11 Apr 2010 21:43

I think there is only one, but people found out Henry's father's name was Wright and just assumed it was Wright Newey. I'm guessing the two with Wright Robins have actually confirmed all the details and found the child was illegitimate. Let me know if you get any emails.