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Thank you Much appreciated E

You're welcome! I was off poking around looking for various combos of names, but nothing firm sprang off the page. If you make any headway, just post back here!

Thanks Guys for your help I will follow up your findings regards Eileen

Janey This death looks very possible. In 1911 census I have Robert age 28 and single living with the Step Mother Ada Aubrey they are in Chorleton. I dont think if Roberts birth mother was alive he would still be living with the step mother

For the children, I might actually think this one more likely:

Births Dec 1885
Bedford Charles Robert Liverpool 8b 96

The other two have Richard for a middle name, and the father here was Robert.

Michael, could be possible, but its 27 years later!!

Oops - what I was getting at there with the 1901 was to see whether there were any children born to Robert and Sarah after 1891 that could help date her death.

Since it seems they weren't married, it's possible she hadn't died when he married Ada.

Eileen -- FreeBMD is there, try the searches!

Sarah H King, death 1891-1897.

There's a death of a Sarah Harrison King aged 26 in Bolton. It's a possibility ...

Household in 1901 in Sculcoates:

Robert Aubrey 58
Ida Aubrey 57
Charles Aubrey 16
James Aubrey 14

Robert Aubrey is 58. He was 24 in 1891.

Well, except that's Ancestry's reading of it. They seem to be the same people -- he was Gymnast in 1891 and Music Hall Artist in 1901. It isn't really possible to read the parents' ages.

For place of birth, Robert's says "N K Declined" and under that, bracketed for all four people, it says "to fill in Sch. 9 [illeg] left" and the children have "ditto Hull" beside their names, which would presumably be a ditto to the "Yorks" of the previous person's entry, and not likely true.

He certainly didn't make it easy. Possibly it was the police constable living next door who made him nervous? ;)

Janey I think the closes one would be James King 1890 Perhaps they didnt marry and Sarah H is Sarah H King?

Or maybe she re-married?

Marriages Jun 1920
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Aubrey Sarah H - Crocker Swansea 11a 2804

Crocker Samuel E -Aubdey Swansea 11a 2804

Your original question was about Sarah's death. Did you search at FreeBMD?

No Sarah Aubrey death to match 1891-1897 (only one, aged 63, in Cardiff).

One more reason to believe she was not married -- her death would have been registered in her birth surname (or her married surname, if she was already married and thus prevented from marrying Aubrey).

If Robert was born in USA, perhaps they married there.

For births for given name "Charles R", JunQ1885 to JunQ1886 (I searched the whole of both years) there are three births: Owens, Bedford and King.

Now, that's assuming the place of birth in the census is accurate, of course.

The younger child James is shown as born in Bolton. There is a James King birth in Bolton in MarQ 1890, but that isn't a good match to the birthdate. No Owens or Bedford.

Thanks Michael, I wonder if he did marry Sarah, I would like to know where she lived in Liverpool, but without her maiden name???? thanks Eileen

There's no Charles Aubrey birth in that period, so I suspect the parents weren't married and the birth was registered in the mother's surname.

Thanks Janey Robert married Ada Newberry sept 1897
by 1911 he has died cos Ada is recorded as widowed. It is Sara that I am interested in. Perhaps they did not marry. regards Eileen

It would be wise to get one of the children's birth certificates to learn Sarah's surname. The 1891 shows Charles R Aubrey as 5 years old, born in Liverpool, so I'd look for his birth at FreeBMD and order that certificate.

Possibly the lancashire BMD site would have a christening?

Marriages Sep 1897 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AUBREY Robert Birmingham 6d 221
Newberry Ada Florence Birmingham 6d 221

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

There's no marriage in England/Wales between a Robert Aubrey and a Sarah. Unless one of them was mistranscribed by FreeBMD so they don't show on the same page. However, there is no marriage of a Robert Aubrey 1881-1891.

Have you looked at FreeBMD for his second marriage to know when it was and what the woman's name was?

I WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR SOME HELP TRACING: A marriage for Robert Aubrey 1862 born USA and his spouse Sarah H Aubrey born 1870 Liverpool. Between 1881 and 1891. I have found them in 1891 in Poulton with the children Charles and James. Then Robert marries Ada or Ida, I would like to know what happened to Sarah. Did she die? Any help would be great thanks Eileen