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Hi James/Tracy

pm me your e-mail address and I will send you the details as soon as I can.

Dea x

That will be great i must pull myself away from this for a while
Thank you
Tracy

James,

Can you hang on for an hour or so?

I have John's Army records on Ancestry - these confirm that this is the correct marriage.

They have Mary (23/9/09) + Alice dob 12th May, 1914 + John William b. 25/6/1917.

They lived at 106 Pereira Street, Bethnal Green.

I am SO behind with cooking dinner but if you can hang on I will look through the records and see what else they come up with.

Dea x

Thank You for this information i cant believe how you all find this can i send of for this certificate? also i dont no if you read my other post at 12.04. do you think we have the right john and mary and should i order these certificates???
Thank you
Tracy

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: John William Rowe (Builders labourer)
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Harris (Rag sorter)
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Mar 1917
Parish: St Bartholomew, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John William Rowe (Carman)
Spouse Father Name: James Harris (Carman)



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Bartholomew, Bethnal Green, Register of marriages, P72/BAT, Item 022

I have looked it all up, just so i am clear there parents possible did not marry untill1917? and Mary born 1909 could have been registered in her mothers name, whereas Alice is registered in her fathers name, should i order these certificate to confirm all this, thank you so much for your help.
Tracy

Thank you so much i will look them up now i have spent 2 months looking for them freebmb is that a easy site to use never used that one?

How about this one?

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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HARRIS Mary St. Geo. East 1c 287

Alice was was 20 when she married James john Kelly March 4th 1935
Mary was 22 married Fredrick Napper 27th march 1932
Thank you

Only two marriages on freebmd for John W Rose and Harris - and the earlier one may not be between the people with the surnames

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Harris Anne Elizabeth Bristol 6a 39
Mortimer Charles Bristol 6a 39
Osmond Eliza Bristol 6a 39
Rowe John William Bristol 6a 39

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Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
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HARRIS Mary A Rowe Bethnal G. 1c 169
Rowe John W Harris Bethnal G. 1c 169

OK - found info myself

Alice's birth

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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Rowe Alice Harris St.Geo.East 1a 532

I Had that one, but all the relations seem to be from St George in the East, in the 1911 census john Rowe is 44 Alice was born in 1914, then there was a another daughter Florence and son George, putting the parents both at about 50 when the last was born i no its not impossibly and John occupation in 1911 is a coal miner, on the marriages of the daughters he is a builders labourer???
What do you think and thank you so much for replying.

What do you know about Alice?

How old was she when she married?

And you haven't answered my question about Mary's age on the wedding day

On the Marriage certificate it looks like Builders Laborer on the first marriage 1932 in 1935 its the same but has (decd)
you think it would be easy with the nans being sisters.

What area where the family living please. found a family on the 1911 census that fits but its in Durham ,is this possible?
Who was their Mum do you have her maiden name

What was her age on her wedding day?

Where did she marry?

EDIT - I'll answer my own question

Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)
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Rowe Mary Napper Stepney 1c 284


And ask another one

What was the father's occupation?

Mary Rowe(my Husbands Nan) born 23 Sept 1909?(as on ancestry Death info B6B 6391B) Married 27Mch 1932 1c 284 this is correct, Died May 1993 Norfolk (was on Holiday) I can not find her birth details that match all her other details. she had a sister Alice Rowe(also my husbands nan) Married May 4 1935 (to James john Kelly,he died same year 1935) Died Alice Simpkins 1974 Redbridge 5d 1618 (this is correct was living with my husbands parents) birth shown as 13 May 1914 can not find a match for there, Fathers name John William Rowe was at 1932 marriage but had dies by 1935 marriage. may of found Death on ancestry John w Rowe 1933 Stepney 1c 452. Any help with these Rowe would be greatly appreciated, or any suggestions on what certificates may help me going forward, and may stop me becoming completely mad.
Thank you
Tracy