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Hello Moody Blue Can you, or anyone else who's reading this, help with any info on Jane Gardener please Thanks

I have gone back through my recordes and its a submitted entry on IGI.which shows Jane Bishop Bartlett mother of the correct children. as I have not been able to find anything re her or her parents.So if its wrong I won't be surprised.

Hi Shirley,

Where did you get your details re the marriage from?


England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Jane Gardener

Groom's Name: George Guppy
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Jane Gardener
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1815
Marriage Place: Saint George, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15080-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1596528
Reference Number:

Ok, sorry if I have confused anyone I was messaging Gillian my tree cousin and thought she picked up on this thread.I also have done some tiding re the messages.Thanks

PS I am not the same Gillian as the one Shirley refers to above

Yes Shirley you are right and I entered SARAH Guppy by mistake instead of Diana, tried to edit it but GR would not accept the alteration so I have deleted it

Thank you Moody Blue, Gillian and I share the same line in the Cryer name but we differ in Diana Guppy's mother I have Jane Bishop Bartlett and Gillian has Jane Gardener I would like to find which is the correct one can you help please.

Possible death of George Guppy:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about George Guppy
Name: George Guppy
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wells
County: Somerset
Volume: 10
Page: 329

Possible marriage?

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about George Guppy
Name: George Guppy
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Jane Gardener
Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1815
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Possible death for Jane Guppy:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Jane Guppy
Name: Jane Guppy
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 74 (

1841 England Census
about James Guppy
Name: James Guppy
[Jane Guppy]
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785

Civil parish: North Wootton
Hundred: Glaston Twelve Hides
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Wells
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Household Members:
Name Age
George Guppy 56
James Guppy 56 should read Jane Guppy
George Guppy 16

1861 England Census
about Diana Cryer
Name: Diana Cryer
[Diana Guppy]
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Cryer
Mother's Name: Jane Guppy
Gender: Female
Where born: Watton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
George Cryer 41
Diana Cryer 42
Elizabeth Cryer 12
Charlott Cryer 9
Thomas Cryer 5
Alford Cryer 2
Jane Guppy 78

1851 England Census
about Diana Cryer
Name: Diana Cryer
[Diana Guppy]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Cryer
Mother's Name: Jane Guppy
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: North Wootton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Lyncombe and Widcome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Lyncombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
George Cryer 30
Diana Cryer 32
William Cryer 7
Ann J Cryer 5
Elizabeth Cryer 2
Charlotte Cryer 3 MO
Jane Guppy 67( Diana's mother)

1841 England Census
about Diana Guffy
Name: Diana Guffy
[Diana Guppy]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: North Wootton
Hundred: Glaston Twelve Hides
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Wells
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Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hooper 15
Diana Guffy 22

Children of Alfred & Eliza:

CRYER, Henry Georg Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Jul 1884 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: Holy Trinity
Father: Alfred John CRYER
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1596359 Dates: 1832 - 1895

CRYER, William Alfred Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Nov 1886 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: Holy Trinity
Father: Alfred John CRYER
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1596359 Dates: 1832 - 1895

Alfred's birth:

CRYER, Alfred John Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Mar 1859 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: Holy Trinity
Father: George CRYER
Mother: Diana
Source: FHL Film 1596359 Dates: 1832 - 1895

CRYER, Alfred John Age: 24 Marriage
Wife: Elizabeth CARPENTER Age: 23
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1883 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: St Philip and St Jacob
Husband's Father: George CRYER
Wife's Father: Henry CARPENTER
Source: FHL Film 1596925 Dates: 1869 - 1889 Note: Additional Data in Original Record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Sarah Ann Carpenter
Name: Sarah Ann Carpenter
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 72
District: Williton
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 179

Yes.......Edith was a child of the Bowden family who were listed on the 1841 census and who had Sarah Sedgbeer living with them!


1851 England Census
about Edith Bowden
Name: Edith Bowden
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Minehead, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Minehead
Town: Minehead
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Minehead
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Bowden 46
Ann Bowden 46
Robert Bowden 16
Emma Bowden 12
Ellen Bowden 10
William Bowden 7
Edith Bowden 4
Mary Jane Bowden 2
William Tedgben 80

1841 England Census
about Sarah Sedgbeer
Name: Sarah Sedgbeer
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Minehead
Hundred: Carhampton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Minehead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Sedgbeer 15



living in same household are:-
Richard Bowden
Ann Bowden
Robert Bowden
Emma Bowden
Ellen Bowden


perhaps this is why Elizabeth is down as "niece" to Edith Bond nee Bowden on 1881 census?

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