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Thanks flick for the correction - there are that many names sometimes you get confused going backwards and forwards all the time. I have been researching my family for 15 years now and this is the hardest link I have ever had even with everybodies help.

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1851 Ancestry
Name: Jane Tomkinson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hawksford 40
Mary A Hawksford 37
Emma M Hawksford 17
Alfred Hawksford 5
William H Hawksford 3
Laura Hawksford 16-niece
Richard Bromage 15
Joseph Evans 18
Jane Tomkinson 9
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2053; Folio: 200; Page: 40

Maureen

thank you Brummagan,

My problem with this entry is I am not sure there was only one set of Eliza and Ebenezer's which seems very strange I know because if you loom on the IGI there are two entries for George Tomkinson one with a birth in 1840 which is my certificate I think although there are not parents names on the IGI and also another entry two years later for a birth and then 6 months after that baptism record both with parent Eliza and Ebenezer tomkinson - I can not find a death for the first one and why would you name two sons the same name?

This link in my research is really confusing!!

That was sneaky, Andrea, changing your posting about the person whose maiden name was Hawkesford.

Cheerio

MaureeninNY

Thanks for the posting it does look as though this group of people could tie in and Tomkinson is often miss transcriped although I think this Eliza might me the mother of my Eliza as she seems a bit old.

This must be Ebenezer's marriage to Eliza:

Marriages Dec 1839 (>99%)

HAWKESFORD Eliz[a_] Kings Norton 18 509
TOMKINSON Ebenezer Kings Norton 18 509

Jan

Does this tie in???
1841 Ancestry
Name: George Tomlinson
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:Duke Street

Occupation:
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Hawkesford 43
Clara Hawkesford 3
Charles Hawkesford 9
Laura Hawkesford 6
George Tomlinson 9 Mo
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1149; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Aston; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 9; Page: 9; Line: 6; GSU roll: 464184.

Maureen

Thanks for your help Your info ties in with mine for 51 and 61 so that is good, the addresss for 1841 should have read 24 Vauxhall Street, which makes much more sense , I miss read my 1800's writing!

Also no Caroline's name was Broadly and Eliza's name was Hawesford.
Can anybody find it please

Name: Ebenezer Tomkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 49
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 88

Just in passing, I think Ebenezer might only be 30 in 1851 - what do others think?

Jan

Name: Ebenezer Tomkinson
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Kings Norton (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 509
Eliz[A_] Hawkesford

So it wasn't Caroline who had the maiden name Hawkesford

Posting 1851 - for reference

Name: Ebenezer Tomkinson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Birmingham St George
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Ebenezer Tomkinson 38 Occ: Gun Stocker
Caroline Tomkinson 27 born LONDON
George Tomkinson 11
Henry Tomkinson 9
Frederick Tomkinson 7
Charles Tomkinson 5
David Tomkinson 11 Mo
Ruth Price 27
Mary Ann Price 9
John Price 6
Ann Price 3

Just for info:

1851 England Census

Name: Ebenezer Tomkinson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Birmingham St George
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George

Ebenezer Tomkinson 38
Caroline Tomkinson 27
George Tomkinson 11
Henry Tomkinson 9
Frederick Tomkinson 7
Charles Tomkinson 5
David Tomkinson 11 Mo
Ruth Price 27
Mary Ann Price 9
John Price 6
Ann Price 3

I am trying to find a family of Tomkinsons particularly Ebenezer Tomkinson he would have been in his 20's in 1841. I can not find any details on him until 1851 Census at which time he has several children and a "wife" called Caroline (i can't find any evience for this marriage) but I beleive caroline to be too young to be the mother of the younger children she would have only been about 16 so I applied for what I think is the eldest childs birth certifcate George Tomkinson born 13 August 1840. Parents are Ebenezer and Eliza Tomkinson born at 24 Newhall Street, Birmingham.

The informant is Samuel Hawkesford (occupier 24 Newhall Street) Hawkesford is Eliza's maiden name. I am hoping they are living here in 1841 and there is just a transcription error why i can not find.

Regards

Would someone check this please? I think it's the correct address...
1841 Ancestry
Name: John Robinson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robinson 30
Mary Robinson 20
Samuel Robinson 2
Eliza Robinson 7
Mary Moules 65
Thomas Evetts 35
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1144; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Birmingham; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 27; Page: 4; Line: 23; GSU roll: 464181.

Maureen

Only on findmypast can address searches be done for any census other than 1881

Who are you looking for?

Where did you get the address?

Is there anybody who could perhaps help look up on the 1841 census who lived at 24 Newhall Street, Birmingham. I cannot find them on Genes but perhaps somebody has access to a programme who can look up addresses.

Many thanks