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James Robison(1906)

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Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Mar 2010 08:51

1861 Scotland Census about William Wilson

Name: William Wilson
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalry, Kirkcudbright
Registration Number: 826
Registration district: Glencairn
Civil parish: Glencairn
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Benbuie
Occupation: Shepherd
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_143
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 50
Isabella Wilson 45
Mary Wilson 13
John Wilson 13
Janet Wilson 10



1841 Scotland Census about William Wilson

Name: William Wilson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Glencairn
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Benbuir
Occupation: Ag Lab
Parish Number: 826
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 29 (Ag Lab)
Isebella Wilson 24
Margret Wilson 1 6 Mo
Alexander Wilson 5 Mo
Mary Murdoch 25


Alexander Wilson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1841 Glencairn, Dumfries, Scotland
Father: William Wilson
Mother: Isobella Maxwell

(submitted entry so would need confirming)

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Mar 2010 08:38

1871 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson
Name: Alexander Wilson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 826
Registration district: Glencairn
Civil parish: Glencairn
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Benberie
Occupation: Surface Drainer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_183
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 60 born: Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire (Shepherd)
Isabella Wilson 56 born: New Cumnock, Ayrshire
Alexander Wilson 30
Martha Wilson 28 born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
Mary Wilson 23 born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
John Hackney Wilson 9 Mo - Grandson born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire



1861 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson
Name: Alexander Wilson
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 586
Registration district: Dalmellington
Civil parish: Dalmellington
County: Ayrshire
Address: Eriff Farm House
Occupation: Surface Drainer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 10
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_84
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hewatson 51
Nicholas Hewatson 50
James Hewatson 21
Robert Hewatson 10
Mary Hewatson 23
James McHutcheon 1 Mo
William Robertson 65
Sarah Robertson 75
Matthew Milligan 24
Alexander Wilson 20


1851 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson
Name: Alexander Wilson
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries
Parish Number: 826
Civil parish: Glencairn
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Benduie
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 4
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_207
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 39 born: Dalry, Kirkcudbright (Shepherd)
Isabella Wilson 34 born: New Cumnock, Ayr
Margaret Wilson 11 born: Glencairn, Dumfries
Alexander Wilson 10
Martha Wilson 8
William Wilson 6
Mary Wilson 3
John Wilson 3
Janet Wilson 3 Mo

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Mar 2010 08:34

1891 Scotland Census about Alex Wilson

Name: Alex Wilson
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries
Registration Number: 876
Registration district: Minnigaff
Civil parish: Minnigaff
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Dranandow
Occupation: Shepherd
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_403
Household Members:
Name Age
Alex Wilson 50
Ann Wilson 53 born: Dingwall, Ross Sh
Wm Wilson 14 born: Glencairn
Isabella Wilson 9 born: Glencairn

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Mar 2010 08:30

Always good to see a result, Claire. That's why I like helping out.

Just to finish off:-
1891 Scotland Census about Grace Wilson
Name: Grace Wilson
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 857B
Registration district: Bargrennan
Civil parish: Minnigaff
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Glenhead
Occupation: General Serv (Domestic)
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_399
Household Members:
Name Age
John McMillan 46
Marion McMillan 30
John Cuthbertson 17
Grace Wilson 16



1881 Scotland Census about Grace Wilson
Name: Grace Wilson
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 826
Registration district: Glencairn
Civil parish: Glencairn
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Craigdarroch Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 11
Line: 6
Roll: cssct1881_323
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Wilson 48: born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire (General Servant)
Ann Wilson 45: born: Dingwull, Rossshire
Grace Wilson 6
William Wilson 5 : born: Glencairn
Mary Dalziel 14: Servant

so looks like Dad was Alexander.

Claire

Claire Report 22 Mar 2010 00:01

Thank you Catherine. I was getting very frustrated, never occured to me he may be lying about his age.
That fits very nicely now.

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Mar 2010 22:59

possible?

MARY BROUN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 APR 1829 Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Father: JAMES BROUN
Mother: MARY THOMSON

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Mar 2010 22:43

Here they are in 1861, and guess what?

Name: James Robison
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Registration Number: 857
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: E Side
Occupation: Police Constable
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 108
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_146
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robison 35 born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Mary Robison 31 born: Urr, Kirkcudbright
Isabella Robison 8
Mary Ann Robison 5
James Robison 2
David Robison 6 Mo

He was a Policeman!!!!!

All fits in nicely now. You really do have to follow your first idea.

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Mar 2010 22:37

The 1852 marriage:-
JAMES ROBISON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 FEB 1852 Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Spouse: MARY BROWN

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Mar 2010 22:34

Just goes to show how careful you have to be when searching.
I never dismiss anything that I think may be even slightly relevant until I have proof that it isn't what I'm looking for. I did that too often when I started this research lark and found I had to do lots work twice over.
The only thing that's bothering me is the fact that Claire says the James Robison's (1873) father was a policeman?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Mar 2010 22:25

He probably just didn't want to admit to the age difference - and they say women are vain!!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Mar 2010 22:24

That looks a distinct possibility Catherine! You saw where I was coming from - I think his year of birth was wrong!

Claire

Claire Report 21 Mar 2010 22:23

His occupation was postman on the marriage certificate to grace. His age at this time was 34.
i have just found his death certificate and he was actually born in 1867 - not 1873 like it states on his marriage certificate.
The date of marriage for james and mary was march 1852.
Don't know why there is a different age on the marriage certificate for james and Grace??
Sooo Confusing!

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Mar 2010 22:03

There is this one, same district as Grace but date of birth is 1867, and father is a Labourer, so........ ?

1871
Name: James Robison
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Registration Number: 857A
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: So New Galloway
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_186
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robison 44 born: Ketton, Kirkcudbright (Occupation: Labourer)
Mary Robison 38 born: Urr, Kirkcudbright
David Robison 10
James Robison 4
Helen Robison 1


same family in 1881:-
Name: James Robison
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: N. K, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 857A
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Cullenoch
Occupation: Shepherd
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 12
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_328
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robison 54
Mary Robison 49 born: Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbrightshire
Isabella Robison 28
Maryann Robison 25
David Robison 20
James Robison 14
Helen Robison 11


1891
Name: James Robison
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright
Registration Number: 857A
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Laurieston No 61
Occupation: Joiner (Unemployed)
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 56
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_399
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robison 64
Mary Robison 60
Isabella Robison 36
James Robison 24
Helen Robison 21

May not be him but I'll leave it on as father does change occupation from census to census and it's the only one that stands out with father James and mother Mary.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Mar 2010 21:19

What was James's occupation on his marriage certificate to Grace please? Have you calculated his year of birth from the marriage certificate? Does it match the calculated year of birth from his death certificate?


EDIT

What date and place of marriage for the parents are given on the 1873 birth certificate for James with parents James Robison and Mary Brown please?


Claire

Claire Report 21 Mar 2010 18:46

Thanks for all of your replies.
Yes that's definitely the same Grace as i know her mother was ann.
I've been looking on scotlands people and have found James Robisons' b(1873) parents, James (who was a policeman) and Mary Brown.
I've been looking through the census but can't find anything for james b(1873). It's really annoying me!

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Mar 2010 17:11

As the marriage took place Glencairn, this could be Grace in 1901?

Name: Grace Wilson
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries
Registration Number: 857A
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: No 56
Occupation: Domestic Serv
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_436
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Wilson 59
Grace Wilson 26
Isabella Wilson 20

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Mar 2010 16:51

parents marriage:-

1 1905 ROBISON JAMES WILSON GRACE GLENCAIRN /DUMFRIES 826/00 0001

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Mar 2010 16:31

The 1911 Scottish census will not be released until 2011 so the only way to find out is using Scotlandspeople but only births prior to 1909 are available to view online. Later births are indexed and as you have an area and not too common surname it may be possible to pick out possible siblings. Looking at the 1901 census records, it looks as though his parents married after 1901.

His father??

1901 census

Name: James Robison
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 894
Registration district: Old Luce
Civil parish: Old Luce
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Dunragit Creamery Cottages (1)
Occupation: Postman
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 12
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_442
Household Members: Name Age
John Tweedie 63
Agnes Tweedie 64
Thomas Tweedie 30
Robert Tweedie 23
George Irvine 31
James Robison 25

Source Citation: Parish: Old Luce; ED: 1; Page: 3; Line: 14; Roll CSSCT1901_442; Year: 1901.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 20 Mar 2010 16:11

Have you looked in ScotlandsPeople? It's free to search but pay to view.

Jill

Claire

Claire Report 20 Mar 2010 16:07

I'm trying to trace James Robison b(1906) In old luce, Wigtown, Scotland. His parents were james robison b (1873) and Grace Wilson b (1876) but don't know if he had any siblings.

He was married to a jessie bell and they had 3 sons - James (1933) Robert (c1935) and Kenneth (c1946) All born in Dumfries, Scotland.