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22 Mar 2010 08:51 |
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1861 Scotland Census about William Wilson
Name: William Wilson Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Dalry, Kirkcudbright Registration Number: 826 Registration district: Glencairn Civil parish: Glencairn County: Dumfriesshire Address: Benbuie Occupation: Shepherd ED: 1 Household schedule number: 14 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_143 Household Members: Name Age William Wilson 50 Isabella Wilson 45 Mary Wilson 13 John Wilson 13 Janet Wilson 10
1841 Scotland Census about William Wilson
Name: William Wilson Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Glencairn County: Dumfriesshire Address: Benbuir Occupation: Ag Lab Parish Number: 826 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Wilson 29 (Ag Lab) Isebella Wilson 24 Margret Wilson 1 6 Mo Alexander Wilson 5 Mo Mary Murdoch 25
Alexander Wilson - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1841 Glencairn, Dumfries, Scotland Father: William Wilson Mother: Isobella Maxwell
(submitted entry so would need confirming)
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22 Mar 2010 08:38 |
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1871 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson Name: Alexander Wilson Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 826 Registration district: Glencairn Civil parish: Glencairn County: Dumfriesshire Address: Benberie Occupation: Surface Drainer ED: 1 Household schedule number: 14 Line: 24 Roll: CSSCT1871_183 Household Members: Name Age William Wilson 60 born: Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire (Shepherd) Isabella Wilson 56 born: New Cumnock, Ayrshire Alexander Wilson 30 Martha Wilson 28 born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire Mary Wilson 23 born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire John Hackney Wilson 9 Mo - Grandson born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire
1861 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson Name: Alexander Wilson Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 586 Registration district: Dalmellington Civil parish: Dalmellington County: Ayrshire Address: Eriff Farm House Occupation: Surface Drainer ED: 5 Household schedule number: 10 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1861_84 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hewatson 51 Nicholas Hewatson 50 James Hewatson 21 Robert Hewatson 10 Mary Hewatson 23 James McHutcheon 1 Mo William Robertson 65 Sarah Robertson 75 Matthew Milligan 24 Alexander Wilson 20
1851 Scotland Census about Alexander Wilson Name: Alexander Wilson Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries Parish Number: 826 Civil parish: Glencairn County: Dumfriesshire Address: Benduie Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Page: 1 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 4 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_207 Household Members: Name Age William Wilson 39 born: Dalry, Kirkcudbright (Shepherd) Isabella Wilson 34 born: New Cumnock, Ayr Margaret Wilson 11 born: Glencairn, Dumfries Alexander Wilson 10 Martha Wilson 8 William Wilson 6 Mary Wilson 3 John Wilson 3 Janet Wilson 3 Mo
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Catherine
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22 Mar 2010 08:34 |
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1891 Scotland Census about Alex Wilson
Name: Alex Wilson Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Ann Gender: Male Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries Registration Number: 876 Registration district: Minnigaff Civil parish: Minnigaff County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: Dranandow Occupation: Shepherd ED: 5 Household schedule number: 20 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_403 Household Members: Name Age Alex Wilson 50 Ann Wilson 53 born: Dingwall, Ross Sh Wm Wilson 14 born: Glencairn Isabella Wilson 9 born: Glencairn
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Catherine
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22 Mar 2010 08:30 |
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Always good to see a result, Claire. That's why I like helping out.
Just to finish off:- 1891 Scotland Census about Grace Wilson Name: Grace Wilson Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 857B Registration district: Bargrennan Civil parish: Minnigaff County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: Glenhead Occupation: General Serv (Domestic) ED: 2 Household schedule number: 5 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1891_399 Household Members: Name Age John McMillan 46 Marion McMillan 30 John Cuthbertson 17 Grace Wilson 16
1881 Scotland Census about Grace Wilson Name: Grace Wilson Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Alexander Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 826 Registration district: Glencairn Civil parish: Glencairn County: Dumfriesshire Address: Craigdarroch Cottage Occupation: Scholar ED: 2 Household schedule number: 11 Line: 6 Roll: cssct1881_323 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Wilson 48: born: Glencairn, Dumfriesshire (General Servant) Ann Wilson 45: born: Dingwull, Rossshire Grace Wilson 6 William Wilson 5 : born: Glencairn Mary Dalziel 14: Servant
so looks like Dad was Alexander.
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Claire
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22 Mar 2010 00:01 |
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Thank you Catherine. I was getting very frustrated, never occured to me he may be lying about his age. That fits very nicely now.
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Catherine
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21 Mar 2010 22:59 |
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possible?
MARY BROUN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 APR 1829 Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Father: JAMES BROUN Mother: MARY THOMSON
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Catherine
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21 Mar 2010 22:43 |
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Here they are in 1861, and guess what?
Name: James Robison Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Gender: Male Where born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright Registration Number: 857 Registration district: Balmaghie Civil parish: Balmaghie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: E Side Occupation: Police Constable ED: 3 Household schedule number: 108 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1861_146 Household Members: Name Age James Robison 35 born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright Mary Robison 31 born: Urr, Kirkcudbright Isabella Robison 8 Mary Ann Robison 5 James Robison 2 David Robison 6 Mo
He was a Policeman!!!!!
All fits in nicely now. You really do have to follow your first idea.
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Catherine
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21 Mar 2010 22:37 |
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The 1852 marriage:- JAMES ROBISON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 27 FEB 1852 Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Spouse: MARY BROWN
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Catherine
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21 Mar 2010 22:34 |
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Just goes to show how careful you have to be when searching. I never dismiss anything that I think may be even slightly relevant until I have proof that it isn't what I'm looking for. I did that too often when I started this research lark and found I had to do lots work twice over. The only thing that's bothering me is the fact that Claire says the James Robison's (1873) father was a policeman?
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rootgatherer
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21 Mar 2010 22:25 |
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He probably just didn't want to admit to the age difference - and they say women are vain!!
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21 Mar 2010 22:24 |
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That looks a distinct possibility Catherine! You saw where I was coming from - I think his year of birth was wrong!
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Claire
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21 Mar 2010 22:23 |
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His occupation was postman on the marriage certificate to grace. His age at this time was 34. i have just found his death certificate and he was actually born in 1867 - not 1873 like it states on his marriage certificate. The date of marriage for james and mary was march 1852. Don't know why there is a different age on the marriage certificate for james and Grace?? Sooo Confusing!
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Catherine
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21 Mar 2010 22:03 |
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There is this one, same district as Grace but date of birth is 1867, and father is a Labourer, so........ ?
1871 Name: James Robison Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Kelton, Kirkcudbright Registration Number: 857A Registration district: Balmaghie Civil parish: Balmaghie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: So New Galloway ED: 3 Household schedule number: 40 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1871_186 Household Members: Name Age James Robison 44 born: Ketton, Kirkcudbright (Occupation: Labourer) Mary Robison 38 born: Urr, Kirkcudbright David Robison 10 James Robison 4 Helen Robison 1
same family in 1881:- Name: James Robison Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Gender: Male Where born: N. K, Kirkcudbrightshire Registration Number: 857A Registration district: Balmaghie Civil parish: Balmaghie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: Cullenoch Occupation: Shepherd ED: 4 Household schedule number: 12 Line: 16 Roll: cssct1881_328 Household Members: Name Age James Robison 54 Mary Robison 49 born: Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbrightshire Isabella Robison 28 Maryann Robison 25 David Robison 20 James Robison 14 Helen Robison 11
1891 Name: James Robison Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright Registration Number: 857A Registration district: Balmaghie Civil parish: Balmaghie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: Laurieston No 61 Occupation: Joiner (Unemployed) ED: 3 Household schedule number: 56 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1891_399 Household Members: Name Age James Robison 64 Mary Robison 60 Isabella Robison 36 James Robison 24 Helen Robison 21
May not be him but I'll leave it on as father does change occupation from census to census and it's the only one that stands out with father James and mother Mary.
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21 Mar 2010 21:19 |
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What was James's occupation on his marriage certificate to Grace please? Have you calculated his year of birth from the marriage certificate? Does it match the calculated year of birth from his death certificate?
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What date and place of marriage for the parents are given on the 1873 birth certificate for James with parents James Robison and Mary Brown please?
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Claire
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21 Mar 2010 18:46 |
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Thanks for all of your replies. Yes that's definitely the same Grace as i know her mother was ann. I've been looking on scotlands people and have found James Robisons' b(1873) parents, James (who was a policeman) and Mary Brown. I've been looking through the census but can't find anything for james b(1873). It's really annoying me!
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 17:11 |
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As the marriage took place Glencairn, this could be Grace in 1901?
Name: Grace Wilson Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Glencairn, Dumfries Registration Number: 857A Registration district: Balmaghie Civil parish: Balmaghie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: No 56 Occupation: Domestic Serv ED: 3 Household schedule number: 49 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1901_436 Household Members: Name Age Ann Wilson 59 Grace Wilson 26 Isabella Wilson 20
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20 Mar 2010 16:51 |
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parents marriage:-
1 1905 ROBISON JAMES WILSON GRACE GLENCAIRN /DUMFRIES 826/00 0001
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20 Mar 2010 16:31 |
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The 1911 Scottish census will not be released until 2011 so the only way to find out is using Scotlandspeople but only births prior to 1909 are available to view online. Later births are indexed and as you have an area and not too common surname it may be possible to pick out possible siblings. Looking at the 1901 census records, it looks as though his parents married after 1901.
His father??
1901 census
Name: James Robison Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Kilton, Ayrshire Registration Number: 894 Registration district: Old Luce Civil parish: Old Luce County: Wigtownshire Address: Dunragit Creamery Cottages (1) Occupation: Postman ED: 1 Household schedule number: 12 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_442 Household Members: Name Age John Tweedie 63 Agnes Tweedie 64 Thomas Tweedie 30 Robert Tweedie 23 George Irvine 31 James Robison 25 Source Citation: Parish: Old Luce; ED: 1; Page: 3; Line: 14; Roll CSSCT1901_442; Year: 1901.
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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20 Mar 2010 16:11 |
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Have you looked in ScotlandsPeople? It's free to search but pay to view.
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Claire
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20 Mar 2010 16:07 |
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I'm trying to trace James Robison b(1906) In old luce, Wigtown, Scotland. His parents were james robison b (1873) and Grace Wilson b (1876) but don't know if he had any siblings.
He was married to a jessie bell and they had 3 sons - James (1933) Robert (c1935) and Kenneth (c1946) All born in Dumfries, Scotland.
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