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15 Mar 2010 12:57 |
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Deaths Dec 1901 KIRKBRIDE William 71 Salford 8d 112
Deaths Jun 1914 Kirkbride Ellen 70 Salford 8d 178
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15 Mar 2010 12:09 |
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Thanks FBG, that'll def be the kirkbrides in 01. x Trying to find them all in 11.
edit. thanks thats ellen in 11.
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15 Mar 2010 12:08 |
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1911 Registration District: Salford Sub District: Regent Road EnumerationDistrict: 18 Parish: Salford Address: 45 New Bury Street Regent Road Salford County: Lancashire
CARTER, Benjamin Husband Married 20 years M 48 1863 Labour At Southern Middlesex London VIEW CARTER, Mary Wife Married F 41 1870 Lraf Ford Park Essex London CARTER, Lily Daughter F 13 1898 School Lancs Salford CARTER, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 School Lancs Salford CARTER, Ben Son M 7 1904 School Lancs Salford CARTER, Bernard Son M 4 1907 Lancs Salford CARTER, Samuel Son M 2 1909 Lancs Salford KIRBRIDE, Ellen Boarder Widow F 64 1847 Knocker Up Lancs Salford
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15 Mar 2010 12:01 |
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1891 Registration District: Salford Sub District: Greengate EnumerationDistrict: 25 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Simons Civil Parish: Salford Municipal Borough: Salford Address: 3, Luptons Buildings 2, Evans Street, Salford County: Lancashire
KIRKBRIDGE, William Head M 60 1831 Joiner Kendal Westmorland KIRKBRIDGE, Ellen Jane Wife F 46 1845 Smallware Weaver Manchester KIRKBRIDGE, William Son Single M 18 1873 Cattle Drover Manchester KIRKBRIDGE, Thomas Son Single M 16 1875 Dyer Labourer Langley Cheshire KIRKBRIDGE, Margaret Daughter Single F 12 1879 Langley Cheshire
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Registration District: Salford Sub District: Regent Road EnumerationDistrict: 23 Ecclesiastical Parish: Salford Stowell Memorial Civil Parish: Salford Municipal Borough: Address: 11, Lindsay Street, Salford County: Lancashire
WORRALL, Thomas Head Married M 46 1855 Lurry Driver Hulme Lancashire WORRALL, Alice A Wife Married F 36 1865 Hulme Lancashire WORRALL, Eliza J Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cotton Weaver Salford Lancashire WORRALL, Jessie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Cotton Weaver Salford Lancashire WORRALL, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1883 Taker Out Printing Mac Salford Lancashire WORRALL, Mary E Daughter F 12 1889 Salford Lancashire WORRALL, William H Son M 8 1893 Salford Lancashire KIRKBRIDE, William Boarder Married M 70 1831 Knocking Up Kendel Westmorland KIRKBRIDE, Ellen J Boarder Married F 56 1845 Knocking Up Manchr Lancashire
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FannyByGaslight
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15 Mar 2010 11:58 |
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No Ellens born Manchester with father John .. But
1861
Registration District: Oldham Sub District: 3 Chadderton EnumerationDistrict: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns Civil Parish: Chadderton Municipal Borough: Address: 5, Butler Green, Chadderton County: Lancashire
BROOKS, John Head Married M 47 1814 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Sally Wife Married F 49 1812 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 22 1839 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Silk Weaver Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Edmond Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Cotton Factory Worker Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, John Son M 13 1848 Cotton Factory Worker Chadderton Lancashire BROOKS, Sally Daughter F 1 1860 Scholar
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FannyByGaslight
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15 Mar 2010 11:45 |
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Maybe Thomas.. The rest seem to be hiding..
1861
Address: Road To Brookhouse, Tottington Lower End
WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas Head Married M 22 1839 Printer And Plasterer <<Painter on image Tottington Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Esther Wife Married F 23 1838 Tottington Lancashire
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15 Mar 2010 11:16 |
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Hi, I wondered if anyone could help me find the Wolstenholme family in the 61 census.
Also looking for Joseph's wife Ellen Jane Brooks, father John Brooks a weaver from Manchester prior to their marriage in 1864. Ellen was born c1842. Ellen married William Kirkbride after Josephs death and I cant seem to find them in the 91,01 and 11 census, this is what I have for the 81:
census 1881, age 39, wife, living in different location to husband william kirkbride, married, daughter Ellen surname changed to kirkbride from wolstenholme. Langley Rd?, Macclesfield, sub district Sutton, cotton weaver, born manchester, children Henrietta Wolstenholme age 15 cotton weaver, ellen kirkbride (was wolstenholme) age 10 scholar, william kirkbride age 8 scholar born Manchester, margaret kirkbride age 2, born Chester, sub Sutton.
Thanks again x
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13 Mar 2010 22:40 |
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thank you
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FannyByGaslight
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13 Mar 2010 19:12 |
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1841 for that family....
Address: William Street, Manchester, Hulme
WOLSTENHOLME, Josh M 40 1801 Lancashire <<Joseph is a plasterer. WOLSTENHOLME, Eliza F 20 1821 Lancashire VIEW WOLSTENHOLME, Samuel M 15 1826 Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Mary F 10 1831 Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Josh M 9 1832 Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas M 5 1836 Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Ellen F 4 1837 Lancashire
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13 Mar 2010 18:43 |
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1851.. The age is out ,but its the best I can find..
Maybe he lied about his age on MC ...
Address: 15, William Street, Manchester
WOLSTENHOLME, Joseph Head Widowed M 50 1801 Painter Bury Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Samuel Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Painter Manchester Lancashire VIEW WOLSTENHOLME, Joseph Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Painter Hulme Lancashire VIEW WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Painter Hulme Lancashire WOLSTENHOLME, Ellen Dau F 12 1839 Scholar Hulme Lancashire SIMPSON, Thomas Married M 35 1816 Leeds Yorkshire SIMPSON, Eliza D/wife Married F 30 1821 Preston Lancashire
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13 Mar 2010 17:54 |
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Marriage cert Joseph born1838 and Ellen Jane Brooks: address Lever St Manchester; Joseph's father Joseph is also a painter.
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ManchesterCat
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13 Mar 2010 12:35 |
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Thanks all for helping. I'll go and try to find Joseph and Ellen's marriage cert to find out his father's occupation.
Patricia, re 71 census, Ellen did go on to remarry after Joseph's death, she married a William KirkBRIDE and had a stepson George, it must be them just with a diff spelling as you say.
Mary yes that could be his death in 1870, they had 4 children that I am aware of, Eliza my gt gt grandmother, Henrietta, Joseph and Ellen, all born between 1865 and 1870. As his wife Ellen was a widow in 71, he must have died shortly after Ellen's birth in 1870.
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13 Mar 2010 11:40 |
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So if they had Ellen 1870 was this Joseph's death 1870 Chorlton Lancs. There was birth for Joseph 1838 Chorlton.
Maryb If you have marriage certificate fo Joseph ,what was his dads occupation?
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13 Mar 2010 11:31 |
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You missed out some of their children (can be clue to family names): 1871 England Census Ellen Wolstenholme Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Hulme Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Household schedule number: 85 Ellen Wolstenholme 28 washerwoman widowed Manchester Henrietta Wolstenholme 6 children born Hulme Eliza Wolstenholme 4 Joseph Wolstenholme 2 Ellen Wolstenholme 4 months Wm Kirkdale 40 lodgers Geo Walker Kirkdale 10 Matthew Taylor 78 Ann Woodruff 69 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4002; Folio: 124; Page: 16; GSU roll: 846101.
and I think the widowed Ellen marries Wm Kirkdale, who appears as William Kirkbride, stepfather to Eliza in 1881
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patchem
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13 Mar 2010 11:23 |
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I was going to suggest going through the censuses sorting out who was alive in 1861 and disappeared by1871, but there are too many deaths: Joseph Wolstenholme Birth: abt 1835 Death: Mar 1870 - Bury, Greater Manchester, Lancashire Joseph Wolstenholme Birth: abt 1838 Death: Jun 1866 - Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire Joseph Wolstenholme Birth: abt 1838 Death: Mar 1870 - Chorlton, Lancashire Joseph Wolstenholme Birth: abt 1832 Death: Mar 1869 - Chorlton, Lancashire
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13 Mar 2010 11:13 |
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This is one of Fanny's, right names and area, wrong profession: 1861 England Census Joseph Wolstenholme Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Margret Gender: Male Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birtle and Middleton Ecclesiastical parish: Birtle County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Birtle Deane Occupation: cotton weaver Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Birtle ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 67 Joseph Wolstenholme 52 Margret Wolstenholme 58 Hannah Wolstenholme 28 Joseph Wolstenholme 22 Rachel Wolstenholme 19 John Wolstenholme 16 Susannah Wolstenholme 3 William Wolstenholme 28 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2840; Folio: 43; Page: 13; GSU roll: 543037.
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patchem
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13 Mar 2010 11:07 |
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Not clear if any further information as to father is on preceding page, as is stained/dark, and this also gives wrong profession 1851 England Census Joseph Woolstenholme Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Openshaw, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Openshaw Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Ashton Road Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Didbury ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Household schedule number: 61 Maia Woolstenholme 37 boilermaker's wife married Sarah Ann Woolstenholme 15 Joseph Woolstenholme 12 labourer boiler maker Robert Woolstenholme 4 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2219; Folio: 460; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87229.
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13 Mar 2010 10:56 |
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This is a Joseph with wrong father - is the father's name from marriage certificate? 1841 England Census Joseph Wolstenholme Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Manchester Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Mount (?) Street Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme William Wolstenholme 65 labourer Probably 45 Elizth Wolstenholme 45 Edward Wolstenholme 20 William Wolstenholme 45 no 15 John Wolstenholme 10 James Wolstenholme 5 Joseph Wolstenholme 4 Elizah Wolstenholme 3 Harriet Wolstenholme 25 Jane Wolstenholme 25 Elizabeth Wolstenholme 14 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 583; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 24; Folio: 10; Page: 13; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438735.
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13 Mar 2010 10:55 |
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Does it say what Joseph seniors job was? Are the witnesses any help?
There are Josephs with father Josephs in 1861 but they are in the cotton trade. All bar one is in the Lancs area.
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13 Mar 2010 10:42 |
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Hi, please could somebody help me find Joseph Wolstenholme on any census? I don't have a lot of info and can't find him.
Joseph Wolstenholme b c1838 location unknown Occupation painter and decorator Father Joseph Wolstenholme Married June 1864 to Ellen J Brooks in Manchester, Lancashire 1871 census wife Ellen J a widow Daughter Eliza Ann b1864 address Stone Street Hulme Manchester Lancashire
Thanks x
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