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Joseph Wolstenholme b c1838 census search

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Mar 2010 12:57

Deaths Dec 1901
KIRKBRIDE William 71 Salford 8d 112

Deaths Jun 1914
Kirkbride Ellen 70 Salford 8d 178

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 15 Mar 2010 12:09

Thanks FBG, that'll def be the kirkbrides in 01. x Trying to find them all in 11.

edit. thanks thats ellen in 11.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Mar 2010 12:08

1911
Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Regent Road EnumerationDistrict:
18 Parish:
Salford

Address:
45 New Bury Street Regent Road Salford County:
Lancashire

CARTER, Benjamin Husband Married
20 years M 48 1863 Labour At Southern Middlesex London VIEW
CARTER, Mary Wife Married F 41 1870 Lraf Ford Park Essex London
CARTER, Lily Daughter F 13 1898 School Lancs Salford
CARTER, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 School Lancs Salford
CARTER, Ben Son M 7 1904 School Lancs Salford
CARTER, Bernard Son M 4 1907 Lancs Salford
CARTER, Samuel Son M 2 1909 Lancs Salford
KIRBRIDE, Ellen Boarder Widow F 64 1847 Knocker Up Lancs Salford

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Mar 2010 12:01

1891
Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Greengate EnumerationDistrict:
25 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Simons

Civil Parish:
Salford Municipal Borough:
Salford Address:
3, Luptons Buildings 2, Evans Street, Salford County:
Lancashire

KIRKBRIDGE, William Head M 60 1831 Joiner
Kendal
Westmorland
KIRKBRIDGE, Ellen Jane Wife F 46 1845 Smallware Weaver
Manchester
KIRKBRIDGE, William Son Single M 18 1873 Cattle Drover
Manchester
KIRKBRIDGE, Thomas Son Single M 16 1875 Dyer Labourer
Langley
Cheshire
KIRKBRIDGE, Margaret Daughter Single F 12 1879
Langley
Cheshire

************************************************

1901

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Regent Road EnumerationDistrict:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Salford Stowell Memorial

Civil Parish:
Salford Municipal Borough:
Address:
11, Lindsay Street, Salford County:
Lancashire

WORRALL, Thomas Head Married M 46 1855 Lurry Driver
Hulme
Lancashire
WORRALL, Alice A Wife Married F 36 1865
Hulme
Lancashire
WORRALL, Eliza J Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cotton Weaver
Salford
Lancashire
WORRALL, Jessie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Cotton Weaver
Salford
Lancashire
WORRALL, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1883 Taker Out Printing Mac
Salford
Lancashire
WORRALL, Mary E Daughter F 12 1889
Salford
Lancashire
WORRALL, William H Son M 8 1893
Salford
Lancashire
KIRKBRIDE, William Boarder Married M 70 1831 Knocking Up
Kendel
Westmorland
KIRKBRIDE, Ellen J Boarder Married F 56 1845 Knocking Up
Manchr
Lancashire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Mar 2010 11:58

No Ellens born Manchester with father John ..
But

1861

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
3 Chadderton EnumerationDistrict:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Chadderton Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Butler Green, Chadderton County:
Lancashire

BROOKS, John Head Married M 47 1814 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Sally Wife Married F 49 1812 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 22 1839 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Silk Weaver
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Edmond Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Cotton Factory Worker
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, John Son M 13 1848 Cotton Factory Worker
Chadderton
Lancashire
BROOKS, Sally Daughter F 1 1860 Scholar

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Mar 2010 11:45

Maybe Thomas..
The rest seem to be hiding..

1861

Address:
Road To Brookhouse, Tottington Lower End

WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas Head Married M 22 1839 Printer And Plasterer <<Painter on image
Tottington
Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Esther Wife Married F 23 1838
Tottington
Lancashire

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 15 Mar 2010 11:16

Hi, I wondered if anyone could help me find the Wolstenholme family in the 61 census.

Also looking for Joseph's wife Ellen Jane Brooks, father John Brooks a weaver from Manchester prior to their marriage in 1864. Ellen was born c1842.
Ellen married William Kirkbride after Josephs death and I cant seem to find them in the 91,01 and 11 census, this is what I have for the 81:

census 1881, age 39, wife, living in different location to husband william kirkbride, married, daughter Ellen surname changed to kirkbride from wolstenholme. Langley Rd?, Macclesfield, sub district Sutton, cotton weaver, born manchester, children Henrietta Wolstenholme age 15 cotton weaver, ellen kirkbride (was wolstenholme) age 10 scholar, william kirkbride age 8 scholar born Manchester, margaret kirkbride age 2, born Chester, sub Sutton.

Thanks again x

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 13 Mar 2010 22:40

thank you

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Mar 2010 19:12

1841 for that family....

Address:
William Street, Manchester, Hulme

WOLSTENHOLME, Josh M 40 1801 Lancashire <<Joseph is a plasterer.
WOLSTENHOLME, Eliza F 20 1821 Lancashire VIEW
WOLSTENHOLME, Samuel M 15 1826 Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Mary F 10 1831 Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Josh M 9 1832 Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas M 5 1836 Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Ellen F 4 1837 Lancashire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Mar 2010 18:43

1851..
The age is out ,but its the best I can find..

Maybe he lied about his age on MC ...

Address:
15, William Street, Manchester

WOLSTENHOLME, Joseph Head Widowed M 50 1801 Painter
Bury
Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Samuel Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Painter
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
WOLSTENHOLME, Joseph Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Painter
Hulme
Lancashire VIEW
WOLSTENHOLME, Thomas Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Painter
Hulme
Lancashire
WOLSTENHOLME, Ellen Dau F 12 1839 Scholar
Hulme
Lancashire
SIMPSON, Thomas Married M 35 1816
Leeds
Yorkshire
SIMPSON, Eliza D/wife Married F 30 1821
Preston
Lancashire

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 13 Mar 2010 17:54

Marriage cert Joseph born1838 and Ellen Jane Brooks: address Lever St Manchester; Joseph's father Joseph is also a painter.

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 13 Mar 2010 12:35

Thanks all for helping. I'll go and try to find Joseph and Ellen's marriage cert to find out his father's occupation.

Patricia, re 71 census, Ellen did go on to remarry after Joseph's death, she married a William KirkBRIDE and had a stepson George, it must be them just with a diff spelling as you say.

Mary yes that could be his death in 1870, they had 4 children that I am aware of, Eliza my gt gt grandmother, Henrietta, Joseph and Ellen, all born between 1865 and 1870. As his wife Ellen was a widow in 71, he must have died shortly after Ellen's birth in 1870.

Mary

Mary Report 13 Mar 2010 11:40

So if they had Ellen 1870 was this Joseph's death 1870 Chorlton Lancs.
There was birth for Joseph 1838 Chorlton.

Maryb
If you have marriage certificate fo Joseph ,what was his dads occupation?

patchem

patchem Report 13 Mar 2010 11:31

You missed out some of their children (can be clue to family names):
1871 England Census
Ellen Wolstenholme Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Manchester Civil parish: Hulme Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Household schedule number: 85
Ellen Wolstenholme 28 washerwoman widowed Manchester
Henrietta Wolstenholme 6 children born Hulme
Eliza Wolstenholme 4
Joseph Wolstenholme 2
Ellen Wolstenholme 4 months
Wm Kirkdale 40 lodgers
Geo Walker Kirkdale 10
Matthew Taylor 78
Ann Woodruff 69
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4002; Folio: 124; Page: 16; GSU roll: 846101.

and I think the widowed Ellen marries Wm Kirkdale, who appears as William Kirkbride, stepfather to Eliza in 1881

patchem

patchem Report 13 Mar 2010 11:23

I was going to suggest going through the censuses sorting out who was alive in 1861 and disappeared by1871, but there are too many deaths:
Joseph Wolstenholme
Birth: abt 1835
Death: Mar 1870 - Bury, Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Joseph Wolstenholme
Birth: abt 1838
Death: Jun 1866 - Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Joseph Wolstenholme
Birth: abt 1838
Death: Mar 1870 - Chorlton, Lancashire
Joseph Wolstenholme
Birth: abt 1832
Death: Mar 1869 - Chorlton, Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 13 Mar 2010 11:13

This is one of Fanny's, right names and area, wrong profession:
1861 England Census
Joseph Wolstenholme Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Margret Gender: Male Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birtle and Middleton Ecclesiastical parish: Birtle County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: Birtle Deane Occupation: cotton weaver Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 67
Joseph Wolstenholme 52
Margret Wolstenholme 58
Hannah Wolstenholme 28
Joseph Wolstenholme 22
Rachel Wolstenholme 19
John Wolstenholme 16
Susannah Wolstenholme 3
William Wolstenholme 28
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2840; Folio: 43; Page: 13; GSU roll: 543037.

patchem

patchem Report 13 Mar 2010 11:07

Not clear if any further information as to father is on preceding page, as is stained/dark, and this also gives wrong profession
1851 England Census
Joseph Woolstenholme Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male
Where born: Openshaw, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Openshaw Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Ashton Road
Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Didbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Household schedule number: 61
Maia Woolstenholme 37 boilermaker's wife married
Sarah Ann Woolstenholme 15
Joseph Woolstenholme 12 labourer boiler maker
Robert Woolstenholme 4
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2219; Folio: 460; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87229.

patchem

patchem Report 13 Mar 2010 10:56

This is a Joseph with wrong father - is the father's name from marriage certificate?
1841 England Census
Joseph Wolstenholme Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Manchester Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England Street Address: Mount (?) Street
Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme
William Wolstenholme 65 labourer Probably 45
Elizth Wolstenholme 45
Edward Wolstenholme 20
William Wolstenholme 45 no 15
John Wolstenholme 10
James Wolstenholme 5
Joseph Wolstenholme 4
Elizah Wolstenholme 3
Harriet Wolstenholme 25
Jane Wolstenholme 25
Elizabeth Wolstenholme 14
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 583; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 24; Folio: 10; Page: 13; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438735.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Mar 2010 10:55

Does it say what Joseph seniors job was?
Are the witnesses any help?

There are Josephs with father Josephs in 1861 but they are in the cotton trade.
All bar one is in the Lancs area.

ManchesterCat

ManchesterCat Report 13 Mar 2010 10:42

Hi, please could somebody help me find Joseph Wolstenholme on any census? I don't have a lot of info and can't find him.

Joseph Wolstenholme b c1838 location unknown
Occupation painter and decorator
Father Joseph Wolstenholme
Married June 1864 to Ellen J Brooks in Manchester, Lancashire
1871 census wife Ellen J a widow
Daughter Eliza Ann b1864 address Stone Street Hulme Manchester Lancashire

Thanks x