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Michelle

Michelle Report 12 Mar 2010 12:37

thank you all so much all this info will keep me going for a long time

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 12:21

Birth for Rosina Vango

Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
Vango Rosina Alice Mile End 1c 508


And possible 1871 census

1871 England Census
about Rose Vange
Name: Rose Vange
[Rose Vango]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
John Vange 41
Ann Vange 38
Mary A Vange 14
John Vange 11
Sarah Vange 9
George Vange 6
Emma Vange 3
Rose Vange 1


CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 11:39

1891 census for George William, Rosina and the two oldest daughters

1891 England Census
about Matilda Edney
Name: Matilda Edney
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Rose
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: looks like 15 Burnside Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Edney 25 .....occupation tram driver
Rose Edney 24
Matilda Edney 1
Rose Edney 2


CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 11:35

Looks like the baptism for Rosina Alice Edney - mistranscribed as Drey and the original writing is pretty awful and certainly begins with a 'D'

However, the father's occupation is given as Printer which would fit with the compositor on the marriage certificate

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Rosina Alice Drey
Name: Rosina Alice Drey
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 20 May 1888
Father's Name: George William Drey
Mother's Name: Rosina Alice Drey
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Date of birth - 30th April

Address at baptism - 34 White Street - which is the same address for Matilda's baptism in 1890.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 11:27

Nothing sinister happened to them - here they are in 1911

HOUSEHOLD EDNEY ETHEL ADA F 1898 13 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY IVY ELIZABETH F 1905 6 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY MATILDA LOUISA F 1891 20 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY MAY EMELINE F 1900 11 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY ROSINA ALICE F 1870 41 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY ROSINA ALICE F 1889 22 Bethnal Green London
HOUSEHOLD EDNEY VIOLET LILIAN F 1893 18 Bethnal Green London

So, Estel is probably a mistrancription and she is really Ethel?

Strange that they're not with the family in 1901 though...


Ah no - just seen there are two Rosina's AND a Matilda in 1911 - I'll go back and see if I can find the baptism for Rosina1889.

So Matilda, Ethel and May are all missing in 1901.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 11:21

Hi Flick

I'm assuming that the second Rose on the 1901 census is actually Matilda Louise as the age is about right - but what happened to Estel Ada and May Emeline?

I can't see any deaths for them on freebmd - unless I'm missing something!!

Flick

Flick Report 12 Mar 2010 11:16

Thanks for that Ninjalady - the 1871 census ties in quite nicely with the rest of the info

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 11:06

Hi Flick

Although the record says born 1858 the original image looks like 29 with the 2 heavily scored through with a 1 - so I'm thinking he was 19 and not 29.

EDIT - so therefore the birth you found is more than likely the correct one.

Flick

Flick Report 12 Mar 2010 11:02

????????

Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Edney George W J Whitechapel 1c 337

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Flick

Flick Report 12 Mar 2010 10:59

1871

Name: George Edney
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: M E N Town, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Mile End New Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 240
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edney 29 Occupation: Waiter
Matilda Edney 29
Henry Edney 6
George Edney 4
Charles Edney 2


CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:59

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about May Emmeline Edney
Name: May Emmeline Edney
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 18 Feb 1900
Father's Name: George William Edney
Mother's Name: Rosina Alice Edney
Parish: St Bartholomew, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

No date of birth given on this baptism

Father's occupation - carman

Address at baptism - 4 Selby Street

Flick

Flick Report 12 Mar 2010 10:56

1901 census

Name: George Edney
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 439
Household Members: Name Age
George Edney 33
Rose Edney 22 **********************Image is 32
Rose Edney 12
Violet Edney 8
George Edney 5

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:56

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George William Edney
Name: George William Edney
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 7 Oct 1894
Father's Name: George William Edney
Mother's Name: Rosena Alice Edney
Parish: St James the Less, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Born - 18th September

Father's occupation - tram driver

Address at baptism - 19 Alma Road

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:53

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Estel Ada Edney
Name: Estel Ada Edney
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Sep 1897
Father's Name: George William Edney
Mother's Name: Rosina Alice Edney
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Born - 1st September

Father's occupation - carman

Address at baptism - 4 Selby Street

Flick

Flick Report 12 Mar 2010 10:53

There are two ages for George on your marriage posting, Ninjalady - which one is correct, please?

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:51

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Matilda Louisa Edney
Name: Matilda Louisa Edney
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 29 Jun 1890
Father's Name: George William Edney
Mother's Name: Rosina Alice Edney
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Born - 6th June

Father's occupation - driver

Address - 34 White Street

jolee

jolee Report 12 Mar 2010 10:50

Marriage
George William Edney aged 29 father Harry Edney
to
Rosina Alice Vango aged 18 born 1869 father John Vango
at
15/12/1887 St Judes Bethnal Green

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:48

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George William Edney
Name: George William Edney
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: Rosina Alice Vango
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1887
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Harry Edney ...occupation - waiter
Spouse Father Name: John Vango ....occupation - pastry cook

George William was 19
Rosina was 18

His occupation - compositor

His address - 4 Globe Road
Her address - 16 Globe Road

Witnesses - John Vango and Elizabeth Pay

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 12 Mar 2010 10:41

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Violet Lilian Edney
Name: Violet Lilian Edney
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 14 Aug 1892
Father's Name: George William Edney
Mother's Name: Rosina Alice Edney
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Birth date - 25th July

Address at baptism - 51 Burnside Street

Can't read George's occupation - but it looks like 'driver' - maybe someone else could double check please?

Michelle

Michelle Report 12 Mar 2010 10:38

i am looking for my gr gr nans dads date of birth all i know is that my gr gr nans name was violet lilian edney born 1893 london and all i know about her dad is his name george william edney and he was some sort of packing case maker can some one help please