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Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:36
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Alice Cross was my great grandmother she was married to Robert Cross their daughter Elizabeth was married to Frederick Copestake I am trying to find Alice's maiden name can anyone help
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3,590 Send Message	EVEIE	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:38
	cant you get elizabeth birth certificate
	Researching: parsley/rogers/ellis/forsyth/dempster/warrington/franks/woodward
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	Staffslass	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:50
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clayton Mary Ann Stoke T. 6b 304 Copestake Frederick William Stoke T. 6b 304 <<<<<<< Cross Elizabeth Stoke T. 6b 304 <<<<<< Kirkland Joseph Stoke T. 6b 304 I think this is the marriage. Sal
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:50
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Robert was born 1847 and alice 1852 their eldest child John was born 1874 robert was born in Fleetwood and alice in Macclesfied many thanks for your reply
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	Staffslass	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:52
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	For reference. 1891 census transcription details for: 7, Lennox Road, Trentham, Blurton, Longton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2146 Folio: 108 Page: 31 Reg. District: Stone Sub District: Trentham Parish: Trentham Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District: Normacott City/Municipal Borough: Longton Address: 7, Lennox Road, Trentham, Blurton, Longton County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Robert Head Married M 44 1847 Striker For Blacksmith Fleetwood Lancashire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Alice A Wife Married F 39 1852 Macclesfield Lancashire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, John Son Single M 17 1874 Colliery Banksman Fenton Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Henry Son M 14 1877 Colliery Ash Wheeler Fenton Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Dresden Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Mary Ellen Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Dresden Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Alice A Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Roughclose Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Voilet Daughter F 5 1886 Normacot Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, William Son M 3 1888 Normacot Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Margaret M Daughter F 2 1889 Normacot Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Albert E Son M 1 1890 Normacot Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS, Robert Son M 0 (1M) 1891 Normacot Staffordshire
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:52
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	thanks for your reply this is the marriage of my grandparents I have their certificate
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	Staffslass	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:54
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	I think this is a good chance for the marriage but gt grandmothers birth certificate would prove it. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROSS Robert Fylde 8e 897 Fair Mary Fylde 8e 897 Fare Mary Fylde 8e 897 Fenton James Fylde 8e 897 JOLLY Alice Fylde 8e 897 Sal
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:54
	Robert E Cross Fleetwood married Alice Amy Winterbottom and had 12/13 children. Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:55
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	many thanks yes this is my family but of course it does not give me alice's maiden name I keep hiting a brick wall with her, I have tried Staff Lancs and Cheshire bmds but no record of the marriage for Robert and alice
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	Staffslass	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:57
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 359 Send Message	The marriage Mary found looks better because on the census it is Alice A. Sal
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 17:58
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	wow how did you find this so quickly this could be her. many many thanks
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:00
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	many thanks robert didn,t have a middle name I have his birth certificate so I don,t think this is them although Alice has Amy as her middle name
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:11
	I got there names off tree on ancestry,but i haven't found the marriage myself as yet. Maryb. Alice Amy was born in Macclesfield to Charles T and mary A 1861 they are in Stoke on trent and 1871 Suffolk. Robert and alice Amy's first child i think was John born Suffolk about 1873/4 They also had elizabeth who married frederick W Copstake and had a child 1901.
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:11
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	I have look on the 1861 census and I can,t find either Alice winterbottom or alice jolly listed I know Alice was born in Macclesfield cheshire
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:14
	1861 they are in Stoke on trent. Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:25
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Maryb many thanks but Robert and Alice's first child was John but he was born in Stoke-on-Trent and they never lived in Suffolk by 1861 Robert had moved from Fleetwood to Stoke-on-Trent with his family and how he met Alice who lived in Macclesfield I have yet to find out
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	7 Mar 2010 18:34
	Alice on the 1871 census says she is in Suffolk but thats their mistake. It is definately the same family in the trees on Ancestry. They have relations on Roberts family born in macclesfield also gone to Stoke on trent in 1861. Roberts parents Henry 1811 Poulton died Stoke 1875 Elizabeth Stanton 1815 henry's parents William 1770-1831 Mary Law 1773 Do they ring a bell? Maryb Alice was also in Stoke 1861
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	Jean	Report	7 Mar 2010 21:28
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 15 Send Message	sorry for not answering sooner family dinner and responsibilities to see too. Roberts parents were Henry Cross and Elizabeth Gardner also known and Betty I have roberts birth certificate, I do have Henry's parents as William and Mary but i did not know Mary's maiden name

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