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Thanks i will follow that up as going by dates could be but not sheffield not shenfield, but could be a spelling error. so grateful for your time and help

Could this be Lily?

1911

KEMP, Harry B Jead Married M 39 1872 Licensed Victualler Isle of Wight VIEW
KEMP, Ida A Wife Married
7 years F 29 1882 Assist In Business London N K VIEW
KEMP, Hilda M Daughter F 9 1902 School London Brixton VIEW
BARTON, Nancy Bormaid Single F 23 1888 Barmiad Public House Croydon Surrey VIEW
SHENFIELD, Lily Barmaid Single F 14 1897 Barmaid Public House London N K VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1192 Reference:
RG14PN1192 RG78PN40 RD13 SD1 ED7 SN184

Registration District:
Strand Sub District:
Strand EnumerationDistrict:
7 Parish:
St Martin in the Fields

Address:
39 St Martins Lane WC County:
London

She is also using her maiden name having had 5 children who were still alive!

1911 census is at 38 elswick road Lewisham. i have fanny is a widow34 visiting Abraham curryer. confusion

No i didnt i am going senile. Thats brilliant of you 2 I have connected the wrong Frances..I think the one i have found in 1911 census is the other ones aunt. Many many thanks from a senile old lady

Doreen

According to K the woman you found in 1911 was aged 60 - didn't you notice that?

very confusing, but thanks for your time and effort most grateful

Thanks flick that was 14, Rackman street. in 1901, her husband not with her then. and neither them nor husband with her 1911. have no idea where they were 1911. or where her husband went

Can't see any of them in 1911 - perhaps they were out of the country?

1901

Name: Elizabeth Sheffield
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Francis
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 74
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 383
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Sheffield 25 born Marylebone
William Sheffield 6
Lily G Sheffield 4
Elizabeth Sheffield 2
Gladys M Marsden 19
Evelyn V Marsden 1 month
Elliot R Voyce 14

Thanks K William b.1895 lily 1897 and Elizabeth 1899 you help is greatly appreciated

The Fanny Sheffield in Kensington in 1911 is listed as a widow but was 60, presumably to old to be Ernest's wife, What were their children's ages and names and we will try to find them

Thanks flick. 1911 census show Fanny Sheffield widow, that what made me think i gone wrong somewhere along the line. got a marriage cert 6th sept 1893. cant find her children 1911 neither. now i am well confused thanks for help greatly appreciated

Name: Ernest C Sheffield
Death Registration Month/Year: 1944
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 958

SORRY all it should have been sheffield. Yes that was his birth. Thanks

Is this his birth? If so, check spelling of his name please:

Births Mar 1874 (>99%)
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SHEFFIELD Ernest Charles Kensington 1a 104

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Dea x

It could, of course,have been anywhere in the world

I can't see it on FreeBMD or Ancestry

If it was in England or Wales, it will be on freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Put in ONLY first and last names - and click 'find'

i am hoping someone can help me i am looking for a death, i think 1911 of Ernest Charles Sheffiel. he was born 1874