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ooo that looks interesting , thanks for taking the time again , will send off for the certificate and let you know how i get on xx

Marcia

The easiest way to get the marriage cert of Thomas and Gertude is to order it online from the General Record Office http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

It will cost £7 and arrive in about a week. Everything apart from the father's name (William instead of Fred) ties very well with the family Vera found in 1901 and 1911with the right siblings names, wife's name and they were living in the right place

Good luck with this and all the children

Kayx

ps - if it does turn out the right family in 1901 and 1911 I would think this could be their marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
Bailey William Edward Abergavenny 11a 91
Cashmore Elizabeth Ann Abergavenny 11a 91
Greenwood Peter Abergavenny 11a 91
Light Amelia Annie Abergavenny 11a 91

There is also a later marriage of a William E Bailey to Annie Allen

Name: William E Bailey
Spouse Surname: Allen
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration county : Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 132

ive just spoke to my aunt and she said that gertrude james married to thomas bailey, my great grandparents was from a place called the 5 house in beufort ebbw vale. it was thomas sister emily that commited suicide she was married to a jim jones and went on too hav two sons terry and david., thomas had a brother billy who died from asthma attack. fred thomas,s father was married twice first to elizabeth ann who died and then to a annie jelly or something like that! i dont know if i need to tell you all this but thought i might just incase you recognise any of it! thanks againx

hiya kay, thanks to you to for the info, like i said im presuming i ring crick reg for the certificate? i can see some names that connect to mine. got a head full of toys at the mo,ha ha, im sure i will get it right when im finding my way around easier!

vera i think this all ties in because i have all these names in my information somewhere! just got to get it all straightened out! my auntie has just rung me and she is helping me with some of it by asking the rest of my family! so just writing down as much as i can, and when i get it in the right order il put it in my tree! thanks vera your being really helpful. yeh got a 3 months old and 3 other children, doing this for them really so they know their roots, not that they would be interested at the moment! i presume i ring crickhowell reg office for the marriage certificate and i would be allowed it as their great grandaughter?x

Marcia

If you haven't already got it you really need the marriage cert of Thomas Bailey and Gertrude James. It should give his age and father's occupation, which would help in narrowing the search . I can't see an obvious match for the family at the moment

Kayx

Marcia,
This is the family from 1901....not sure if it is right ...as you said Thomas' parents were Frederick and Emily/Jane

1911BAILEY, William Head Married M 37 1874 Haulier Below Ground Stretton Hereford VIEW
BAILEY, Elizabath Ann Wife Married
11 years F 34 1877 Abergavenny Mon VIEW
BAILEY, Thomas Son M 10 1901 In School Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
BAILEY, William Ed Son M 7 1904 In School Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
BAILEY, Emily Ann Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Nantyglo Mon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31822 Reference:
RG14PN31822 RG78PN1832 RD585 SD1 ED9 SN114

Registration District:
Bedwellty Sub District:
Aberystruth EnumerationDistrict:
9 Parish:
Aberystruth

Address:
43 Waun Ebbw Nantyglo Mon County:
Monmouthshire



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Regards Vera

Congratulations on your new babe....

Regards Vera

Marcia,
How very sad. Kay and I have been trying to get onto the 1911 census...but there is a problem with the site...will keep trying.
Do you know what occupation or maybe the namesof the parents Frederick... Thomas' father
Regards Vera

thanks k, i think that is the right one, i hope so anyway, will check it out, x

i think jane or emily unfortunatley may have commited suicide in pond rd brynmawr so im told, maybe then he married the other wife just after? im not the best at this but trying lolx

thomas grandaughter my auntie her name is ann elizabeth bailey so think she would of been named after elizabeth ann, i reckon that must be the right frederick, ur a star, keep em coming !

im so sorry!a ive just notice all the info you been askin for, sorry vera, got a new baby so dont get the time to look at everything but must try harder! yeh thomas father would of been frederick but not sure were he orginates from, and fred was married to a jane or emily, think he was married twice so probably both

Sooooo frustrating....where are you Thomas....found a Frederick H Bailey born 1866 cardiff.....but is he Thomas' father ????

Regards Vera

Looks promising...wish we could get onto the 1911......!!!!

Regards Vera

This is a possible marriage I could find in the general area for Frederick/Jane or Emily

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
BAILEY Frederick Henry W Cardiff 11a 689
Glisson Amy Cardiff 11a 689
Long Richard Henry Cardiff 11a 689
Robertson Jane Cardiff 11a 689

Back to the drawing board :o))

Regards Vera

Completely agree

K,
Hope you don't me mentioning...Thomas's parents are Frederick and Emily/Jane

Looks like I have got the wrong Thomas.....

Regards vera