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Apologies to all for not replying earlier - have had problem with magic box - lost all email messages for a month between Jan/Feb - also was taking literally 45 minutes from switch on to getting desktop icons - my son traced it to BillGates 'must have' Internet Explorer which was corrupted ant taking up all CPU. Touch wood is now o.k.
Thanks also Dea - I was not aware of Emily Brown Hazlitt before.
Am still searching for my Joseph. Tracking back on other Hazlitt families, and various spellings, to see if I can find a link. Not helped by the fact that one generation back they came from Ireland, so difficult to tie up uncles etc.
Have sent for a couple of certificates, but don't expect it will answer the query.
Will let you know if I have that Eureka moment.
Again, my apologies, and thanks to all.
David.

Message from David:---


Thanks for your replies.
I have most of the info re grandmother Elizabeth Wyatt Hazlitt, and grandfather Lancelot Strong, also re their childre ( my aunts/uncles).
The mystery is Joseph Hazlitt shown in 1911 census, age 34, born Fleetwood - I have not been able to trace any Joseph, or similar name, born around 1877.
The Annie shown as his sister age 46 could possibly be Jane Ann Hazlitt b.abt Dec.1863 Fleetwood, i.e. my grandmother's elder sister, but that would make Joseph her brother - so why does he not appear in any census (until 1911) ?
So, still digging.




I suggest that Joseph might well have been under another name on earlier censuses, either a nickname or a middle name. OR that he was actually a cousin, and that the siblings of Elizabeth's father should be followed.



David .................. it would be much better if you responded on the thread so that we can all see your replies, and any added information. Just scroll upwards until you see the purple tab with white lettering Reply. It's just below the title of the thread. Click on that, type your message, then click Submit.




sylvia

These are the children of James Hazlitt + Elizabeth Wyatt as recorded on Lancs Bmd:


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT Jane Ann Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/18/65



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT Thomas James Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/20/40



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT George William Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/22/65



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT Elizabeth Wyatt Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/25/7



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT Emily Brown Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/27/17



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT George Hammond Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/31/28



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAZLITT Emily Brown Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool WYATT PLF/37/5

There is no Joseph!.

Joseph is marked as Annie's brother on census and there is only one Annie who fits - this is Jane Ann. Therefore it is probable that Joseph was christened by another name and was just known as Joseph.

It doesn't help you much but I really think that must be the case.

Dea x

from David

My grandfather was Lancelot Strong born 1858 Hayton Cumberland. His first wife was Anna Mary Hopkins, married 1885 Co.Mayo when Lancelot was in the Army. She died, age 23, in May 1890 having had 3 children. Lancelot then married (Jan.1892 in Fleetwood) my grandmother Elizabeth Wyatt Hazlitt (born Sept 1869 Fleetwood. Her parents were James Hazlitt (b.abt 1822 Ireland) and Elizabeth Wyatt (b.1834 Glossop, Derbys). Eliz.W.Hazlitt's siblings I have as Jane Ann (1863), Thomas James (1865), George William (1867-1874), and George Hammond Hazlit (1874).
The 1911 census original clearly shows Joseph Hazlitt age 34 Single Clog Maker born Fleetwood, together with sister Annie 456 Single also born Fleetwood.
I have searched through various spellings of Hazlitt in FreeBMD, and trawled FindMyPast but so far have not found this joseph.
Very strange because my grandfather gives 119 Every Street Manchester on his Army Reserve enlistment papers 1n 1914, so there must be a family connection - but Where ??
So far I am stumped.

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ah, NO


it looks as though his name is James!


1881 Census

Name: Thomas Jas. Hazlett
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Thornton in Fylde
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Adilaide St

Occupation: Painter Apprentice

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Poulton le Fylde

James Hazlett 54
Elizabeth Hazlett 48
Jane Ann Hazlett 17
Thomas Jas. Hazlett 15
Lizzie Wyatt Hazlett 11
George H. Hazlett 6
James Hammond 23



sylvia

Public Family Tree on ancestry


You obviously need to chekc this out very carefully ....... but it may be your link. If Thomas J Hazlett is actually Thomas Joseph ....... there he is, Elizabeth's brother


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Timeline

1869
18 Sep
Birth
Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

4 source citations

1871
Age: 2
Residence
Thornton, Lancashire, England

1881
Age: 12
Residence
Thornton in Fylde, Lancashire, England

1892
13 Jan
Age: 22
Marriage to Lancelot Strong
Fylde Independent Chapel.
Witnesses: David Moffat & Grace Jane Walker Andrews

Family Members
Parents

James Hazlitt
1825 –

Elizabeth Hazlett
1835 –


Siblings

Jane Ann Hazlett
1864 –

Thomas J Hazlett
1866 –

George W Hazlett
1868 –

George H. Hazlett
1875 –

Spouse & Children

Lancelot Strong
1858 – 1932



sylvia

? Elizabeth in 1871 .... name spelled Hazlett, mispellings are NOT unusual!!


1871 Census

Name: Elizabeth Hazlett
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Fleetwood, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Fleetwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Poulton le Fylde

James Hazlett 49 b.ca 1822, Ireland, Painter
Elizabeth Hazlett 36 b.ca 1835, Ireland
Jane Ann Hazlett 7
Thomas J Hazlett 5
George W Hazlett 3
Elizabeth Hazlett 1

Address:- No 5 London St




sylvia

All children born Fleetwood

1861

Name: Sancelot Strong
[Lancelot Strong]
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hayton, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Faugh
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Brampton
Sub-registration district: Hayton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Strong 32
Mary Strong 30
Ann Walker 10
John Strong 5
Sancelot Strong 2

1891 for the son Lancelot

Name: Lancelot Hy Strong
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name:
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Farlam
Ecclesiastical parish: Farlam
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Brampton
Sub-registration district: Brampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Strong 62
Mary Strong 60
Grace J Strong 25
Lancelot Hy Strong 4
John Joe Walker Strong 2
Percival Strong 1
Fanny Thompson 7

1881

Charles PENN Other U Male 28 Peterborough, Northampton, England Private In The Army
John PRESTON Other U Male 23 Salford, Lancashire, England Private In The Army
Michael RICE Other U Male 25 Bagnal Stown Galway, Ireland Private In The Army
William RILEY Other U Male 24 Glossop, Derby, England Private In The Army
George ROLAND Other U Male 24 Arbrouth Forfar, Scotland Private In The Army
William SHAKESPEAR Other U Male 21 Manchester, Lancashire, England Private In The Army
John SMITH Other U Male 30 Hartlepool, Durham, England Private In The Army
Lanncelot STRONG Other U Male 22 Shankhill Antrim, Ireland Private In The Army
John SUGDEN Other U Male 19 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Private In The Army
Daniel SULLIVAN Other U Male 22 Leeds, York, England Private In The Army
John TAYLOR Other U Male 21 Coventry, Warwick, England Private In The Army
Robert TAYLOR Other U Male 32 Spilsby, Lincoln, England Private In The Army
John TOLING Other U Male 19 Market Stanton, Lincoln, England Private In The Army
James TOWNSEND Other U Male 24 Beverley, York, England Private In The Army
William WALKER Other U Male 29 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Private In The Army
Michael WALSH Other U Male 38 Godals Lanark, Scotland Private In The Army
John WEAVER Other U Male 25 Galway, Ireland Private In The Army
John WARRING Other U Male 21 Preston, Lancashire, England Private In The Army
Alfred WEBSTER Other U Male 21 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Private In The Army
Samuel WHITELEY Other U Male 22 Hull, York, England Private In The Army
(Continued)


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Source Information:
Institution "The Verne Citadel"In The Isle Of Portland
Census Place Portland, Dorset, England
Family History Library Film 1341509
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2108 / 9
Page Number 11

1901

Name: Elizabeth Strong
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Strong 31
Lancelot H Strong 14 born Ireland
John J W Strong 12 born Ireland
Edna Strong 6
Rupert Strong 5
Harold Strong 3
Ethel Strong 1

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Two eldest boys not Elizabeth's

Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%)
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HAZLITT Elizabeth Fylde 8e 899
Strong Lancelot Fylde 8e 899

On original 1911 image Annie is shown as Joseph's sister.

1881

John COLLIER Other U Male 20 Eccleshall, Stafford, England Private
Andrew GARTLAND Other U Male 22 Scotland Private
Alfred WARNER Other U Male 23 Freckenham, Suffolk, England Private
William BRIGHT Other U Male 22 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Private
Alfred BOULTON Other U Male 20 Birmingham, Warwick, England Private
Julian DAVIS Other U Male 21 Ireland Private
Michael DOYLE Other U Male 26 Ireland Private
Joseph HAZLETT Other U Male 23 Covenham, Lincoln, England Private
Benjamin BLAKE Other U Male 24 Trewbridge, Wiltshire, England Private
Martin RODGERS Other U Male 25 Ireland Gunner
William POWELL Other U Male 21 Ireland Private
John BAKER Other M Male 32 Bridgwater, Somerset, England Gunner
Thomas W. O'BRIEN Other U Male 30 Woolwick, Kent, England Private
Arthur TURNER Other U Male 23 Darlington, Durham, England Private
George ROWE Other U Male 30 Arundel, Kent, England Private
John HACKETT Other U Male 24 Lichfield, Stafford, England Private
Richard MARCHANT Other U Male 34 Bridgwater, Somerset, England Private
James HAYWARD Other U Male 27 Rugeley, Stafford, England Private
John W. BRAID Other U Male 21 London, London, Middlesex, England Private
John JAMES Other U Male 25 Cumnarth, Glamorgan, Wales Private


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Source Information:
Vessel "HMS Alexandra"
Census Place Royal Navy, England
Family History Library Film 1342354
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5635 / 103
Page Number 37

This person is in the same household in 1911

HAZLITT ANNIE F 1865 46 Manchester Lancashire (born Fleetwood)

Where was Elizabeth born? Who were her parents?

1881 - is this a connection?

John A. STRONG Head M Male 37 Brampton Abbot, Hereford, England C S Clerk Admiralty
Lucebella STRONG Wife M Female 39 Torquay, Devon, England
Lucebella M. CHAMBERS Step Daur Female 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Ida V.M. CHAMBERS Step Daur Female 6 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Rupert S.K. STRONG Son Male 1 London, Middlesex, England
Helena E.G. CUMMING Other U Female 26 Bermuda, West Indies Governess
Alice G. STRONG Niece U Female 8 India Scholar
Susan CANN Serv U Female 46 Hinkleigh, Devon, England Housekeeper Domestic
Jane MORRIS Serv U Female 28 Llyneoddlane, Montgomery, Wales House Md Domestic
Sarah A. WOODBURY Serv U Female 30 Plymptree, Devon, England Cook Domestic
Ellen FREEMAN Serv U Female 26 Hailey, Oxford, England Nurse Domestic


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Source Information:
Dwelling 60 W Cromwell Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341011
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0050 / 42
Page Number 38

1911 census shows a JOSEPH HAZLITT, 34, Single, Clog Maker, born Fleetwood at 119 Every Street, Ancoats, Manchester. Cannot find him anywhere before. Manchester Electoral Roll for 1914 shows a GEORGE HAZLITT, at that address, but I cannot trace him. My grandfather Lancelot Strong,(Wife Elizabeth Hazlitt) and uncle Rupert used this address in 1914-15 on Army lists. I am stumped for family connection. Can anyone help me ?