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7 Feb 2010 12:48 |
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Hi All Would someone be kind enough to see if they can find a date of death for REBECCA NOWLAN bn 1859/60 Poplar London E14. She was my G/Gran mother and married to a EDGAR GEORGE WALKER (1857-1903). I have date of marriage as 22/07/1877 at St. Thomas Stepney London E14, Though thats not confirmed, not sure were that came from???. Her first child was Rebecca(1879) and last found being Grace (1890) no sign of the mother on 1891 census?? Any help with marriage date or Death greatly appreciated Thanks
Brian x
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Andrew
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7 Feb 2010 13:12 |
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Here is the marriage
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Rebecca Nowlan Name: Rebecca Nowlan Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Spouse Name: George Walker Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Jul 1877 Parish: St Thomas, Stepney County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Nowlan Spouse Father Name: John Walker
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Feb 2010 13:14 |
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? Edgar using his middle name & age mistranscribed
Name: Rebecca Walker Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, London, England Civil parish: St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Town: Bromley County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Walker 26 Rebecca Walker 31 Rebecca Walker 12 Alice Walker 11 Sophia Walker 9 George Walker 9 Beatrice Walker 4 Grace Walker 1
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7 Feb 2010 13:16 |
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This looks like the family in 1901 with Edgar using his middle name George.
Name: Rebecca Walker Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, London, England Civil parish: Bromley Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows East India Docks Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 64 Abbot Road
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 186 Household Members: Name Age George Walker 43 Locomotive Engine Driver Rebecca Walker 41 Alice Walker 21 Sophia Walker 19 George Walker 16 Beatrice Walker 13 Grace Walker 11 William Orin 49 Visitor Mary A Orin 50 Visitor
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 347; Folio: 49; Page: 25.
1891 Census
Name: Rebecca Walker Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, London, England Civil parish: St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Town: Bromley County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Walker 26 Rebecca Walker 31 Rebecca Walker 12 Alice Walker 11 Sophia Walker 9 George Walker 9 Beatrice Walker 4 Grace Walker 1 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 327; Folio 127; Page 25; GSU roll: 6095437.
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7 Feb 2010 13:17 |
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so you dont actually want a death date for Rebecca Nowland, more Rebecca walker.
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Brian
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7 Feb 2010 13:17 |
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Hi Andy Many thanks for confirming the marriage- The husband died 1903, but no sign of her anywhere after last child??
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Brian
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Feb 2010 13:23 |
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Possible she re-married?
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atkins James Poplar 1c 989 REITZE Mira Sarah Poplar 1c 989 SMITH Robert Alfred Poplar 1c 989 WALKER Rebecca Poplar 1c 989
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Brian
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7 Feb 2010 13:29 |
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Hi All
Thanks for the info - Thats the right family, seems George or Edgar, used his first or second name when ever it suited him??? I have looked for her death under Nowlan, Nowland & Walker all to no avail???
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Brian
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Brian
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7 Feb 2010 13:38 |
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Thanks Joy
Well spotted!!!, you could be right, maybe she did leave him around 1890, so not appearing on 1891 census, and remarried 1905???. That would explain no death date for a Rebecca Walker???
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Brian xx
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Feb 2010 14:41 |
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1911 Census
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH, Robert Alfred Head Married M 32 1879 Greengrocer Weely Essex VIEW SMITH, Rebecca Wife Married 7 years F 50 1861 Poplar Middlesex VIEW
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7 Feb 2010 14:52 |
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What was Edgar / George's occupation please? Is that not Rebecca living with him on the 1891 and 1901 census posted above?
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Brian
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8 Feb 2010 08:26 |
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Hiya Joy & Rootsgatherer Thanks for your last couple of replies, Edgar/George was found to have been listed as both a Locomotive engine driver and a Steam tug driver in different census'??... Joy thanks for looking at 1911 census-you have certainly found something interesting as that fits well, At first I thought the Rebecca who had married Rbt. Alf. Smith might have been the eldest daughter Rebecca who would have been born 1879 (my g/fathers sister). Who I never knew??? Thanks for looking at 1911 census you have been a great help
Brian xxx
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2010 08:37 |
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One of these could be the younger Rebecca's marriage.
Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>Bence Edwin Poplar 1c 1023 Pemberthy Sarah Ellen Poplar 1c 1023 Simms John Charles J Poplar 1c 1023 >>>>>>>>>>>Walker Rebecca Poplar 1c 1023
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allen Ada Jemima Poplar 1c 1009 Collins Charles Agustus Poplar 1c 1009 Collins Charles Augustus Poplar 1c 1009 Johnson Robert William Poplar 1c 1009 Walker Rebecca Poplar 1c 1009
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2010 08:42 |
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1901 Census
Name: Rebecca Bence Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Edwin Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bromley Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 326 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Bence 26 Rebecca Bence 22 Rebecca G Bence 1 Arthur Bence 7 months
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2010 08:50 |
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If that is the right marriage, the younger Rebecca's death?
Name: Rebecca Bence Death Registration Month/Year: 1966 Age at death (estimated): 87 Registration district: Hackney Inferred County: London Volume: 5b Page: 534
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Brian
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8 Feb 2010 08:50 |
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Good morning Joy
Thanks for the new marriage possibilities for daughter, they are worth checking??. My g/father had abt. 5 sisters none have I yet got round to looking into. I dont remember any of them as a child. My g/father was the only male in a female household. I am today going to a funeral today for one of my cousins, so might get chance to ask a few quetions???. Thanks for your help I will continue with this when I get back
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Brian xxx
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2010 09:19 |
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The elder Rebecca's death?
Name: Rebecca Smith Death Registration Month/Year: 1940 Age at death (estimated): 81 Registration district: Elham Inferred County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 3254
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