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Descendants of the Hansell family timber merchants

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Aug 2011 08:05

Hello Hugh and welcome to the boards.

You have replied to an old thread and it is likely that Thomas is no longer looking for replies.

If you click on his name you can send your message that way. If he still has the same email address, he will be notified.


It looks as though Ginny has sorted out quite a lot of the family but, if you need further help you could start your own thread but quote this thread in your message - so that people do not do research twice.

You can also try putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above to see if anyone else on this site has them in their tree. Ifyou find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.

Cx.

Hugh

Hugh Report 12 Aug 2011 20:20

Lucy Kathleen m. my great-uncle Charlie Harrison.
They had no children.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 7 Feb 2010 13:58

Hey Ginny

As requested...

1911 census transcription details for: 6 Dawson Sqr Tynemouth

National Archive Reference: RG14PN30736 RG78PN1758 RD559 SD2 ED4 SN215

Address: 6 Dawson Sqr Tynemouth County: Northumberland

HANSELL, John Head Married M 47 1864 Timber Merchant Northumberland North Shields
HANSELL, Lucy Catherine Wife Married 18 years F 45 1866 Northumberland North Shields
HANSELL, Lucy Kathleen Daughter F 12 1899 Northumberland Tynemouth
HANSELL, Evelyn Marjorie Daughter F 7 1904 Northumberland Tynemouth
PRESTON, Euphemia Servant Single F 29 1882 Cook Domestic Northumberland North Shields
ELLIOTT, Margaret Servant Single F 20 1891 Nurse Domestic Northumberland Wark
CURRY, Alice Servant Single F 26 1885 Parlour Maid Domestic Durham Shildon
BOAK, Minnie Servant Single F 19 1892 Housemaid Domestic Northumberland Alnwick


Tracey x

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 10:04

Thomas just thought. If they were a wealthy family they would probably have written 'wills'

It costs £5 to get a copy, got to be worth a shot, you can get them from here

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 09:46

The birth of Evelyn matches with the death record so it does look like she married Witherington

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Evelyn Marjorie Witherington
Name: Evelyn Marjorie Witherington
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1903
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1991
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Poole
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 765


The informant on this death certificate might be intersting. It could be a relative which will give you a contact

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Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 09:37

Found only one birth for a Gilliam M Witherington in Hampshire Ive PM'd the details for you

It is sometime after the marriage but quite possible with the war on etc

Ginny
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Anyone with fresh eyes most welcome

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 09:26

The family on the 1911 census


HOUSEHOLD HANSELL EVELYN MARJORIE F 1904 7 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD HANSELL JOHN M 1864 47 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD HANSELL LUCY CATHERINE F 1866 45 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD HANSELL LUCY KATHLEEN F 1899 12 Tynemouth Northumberland


And Hubert is here


HOUSEHOLD HANSELL HUBERT HERLAND M 1894 17 Guildford Surrey

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 09:16

There is a birth for Evelyn M Hansell in 1903 Tynemouth. She is on the 1911 census living with John and Lucy so it must be her. This is the only marriage I can find with that middle initial

A long way from Tynemouth but..............


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Evelyn M Hansell
Name: Evelyn M Hansell
Spouse Surname: Witherington
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Registration district: Poole
Registration county (inferred): Dorset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 749
Find Spouse: Charles T

Ginny
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Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 08:33

Lucy's marriage...looks likely but the certificate will confirm

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Lucy K Hansell
Name: Lucy K Hansell
Spouse Surname: Harrison
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1926
Registration district: Darlington
Registration county (inferred): Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 60
Find Spouse: Michael C C




Ginny
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Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 08:29

John and Lucys son's birth and what looks like death, so no tracing forward with him

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Hubert Merland Hansell
Name: Hubert Merland Hansell
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 221 (click to see others on page)




Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
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Hansell Hubert M 27 Thanet 2a 1119



However this looks good to move forward




England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Lucy Kathleen Hansell
Name: Lucy Kathleen Hansell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1898
Christening Date: 7 Jun 1898
Christening Place: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: John Hansell
Mother's Name: Lucy Catherine

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 08:10

This is Johns birth and what looks to be a brother who bears the maiden name of the mother Elizabeth

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
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HANSELL John Tynemouth 10b 137




Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
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HANSELL Thomas Hewson Tynemouth 10b 157



And his death, just a baby



Deaths Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Hansell Thomas Hewson Tynemouth 10b 111


Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 07:34

Starnge. Johns mom is listed as a widow in 1871 and she is here with her parents in 1861...single

But I cant find a marriage in that 10 year period? I wonder if she didnt marry


1861 England Census
about Elizabeth J Hewson
Name: Elizabeth J Hewson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Shallet
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: No Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Preston
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Household Members: Name Age
Shallet Hewson 55
Elizabeth Hewson 50
Elizabeth J Hewson 25
Sarah Middlemass 30
Barbara Middlemass 23


Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 07:14

1871 England Census
about John Hansell
Name: John Hansell
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth S
Gender: Male
Where born: Northd, Tynemouth
Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Shallet Hewson 65 <<<<<<Ship owner
Elizabeth Hewson 60
Elizabeth S Hansell 35 <<<<<<<<<Widow
John Hansell 7 <<<<<<<<Elizabeths son
Shallet J Cranford 12
Mary Bocock 60
Mary Grainger 22
Elizabeth Bocock 17




1881 England Census
about John Hausell
Name: John Hausell
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth S.
Gender: Male
Where born: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Preston in Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Camp Terrace
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth S. Hausell 45 <Widow
John Hausell 17
Shallet J. Crawford 22
Mary Boocock 69
Alice J. Goddard 23
Rebbecca Pottinger 32









1891 England Census
about John Hansell
Name: John Hansell
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth S
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Preston (Tynemouth)
Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth
Town: Preston
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Camp Terrace

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth S Hansell 55 <<<<<Widow living on own means
John Hansell 27 <<<<<<<<<Living on own means
Shallett J Crawford 32 <<<<Nephew living on own means
Rebecca Pattinger 42
Mary Ellen Corner 19
Ann Gibson 40


Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 07:11

John is not with Lucy on the 1901 census but is here. Maybe away on business

1901 England Census
about John Hansell
Name: John Hansell
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Ellel
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Galgate
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Ralph S E Mortimer 31
Edward Mortimer 21
John Hansell 37 <<<Visitor, Timber merchant....employer
Douglas F Johnson 28
Ellen Allen 45
Alice Jones 29
Mary A M Paynter 22


Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 07:04

Heres John and Lucy's marriage



Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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FENWICK Lucy Catherine Tynemouth 10b 321
Hansell John Tynemouth 10b 321


Ginny
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Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2010 06:57

Thomas

Ive just done a search for the family and these are living at 6 Dawsons Sq, so it looks must be the same family you are looking for;


1901 England Census
about Herbert Hansell <<<<Should say Hubert
Name: Herbert Hansell
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Tynemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth Holy Saviour Priory
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Dawsons Sq

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 230
Household Members: Name Age
Lucy Hansell 34 <<<<Wife of John
Herbert Hansell 7
Kathlean Hansell 2
Olive Grieveson 22 <<<<<Visitor
Fanny Pridham 30 <<<<<Cook
Sarah Barrell 29 <<<<<<<<House maid
Elzabeth Darling 26 <<<<<<<<Nurse


Ginny

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 6 Feb 2010 20:54

Hello Thomas,

If you put the name Hansell into the search tree facility above along with Tynemouth, you will find there are a lot with that name and area in trees on this site. It may be worth looking through them to see if you wish tomake contact with any of the tree owners. Cx.

Thomas

Thomas Report 5 Feb 2010 20:55

dear ginny the house was at 6 dawson square tynemouth the year 1911 my gran,s name was euphemia preston born 1883

Gee

Gee Report 5 Feb 2010 18:08

Thomas

What area and decade are you meaning.

Edit; And what was your nans name and date of birth

Ginny
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Thomas

Thomas Report 5 Feb 2010 18:04

My gran worked as a cook for this family. I would like to know are there any descendants around today?