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smiths from Gorton Manchester

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Graham

Graham Report 4 Feb 2010 18:29

I am trying to find relatives of Edith Smith who married Fred Lea in 1924 at the parish church Gorton.Edith's father was John Smith.Edith's address was Taylor street Gorton.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Feb 2010 18:39

For ref
Gorton,Lancashire,in the reg district of Chorlton.

How old was Edith when she married?
What is her fathers occupation and are the witnesses family names from the Smith side?
To help try to find her on census.

Thats if you are trying to trace back of course as you dont really say.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 21:35

Message fom Graham..

Yes I am trying to trace back .Edith was 20 years old when married .John Smith her father was a porter.The witnesses were Joseph and Annie Smith.I think Fred lea told afib about his age when he got married as his parents did not want him to marry Edith.
From Graham

Graham.
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1911.
Right address,right father,right age,father has a different job,but still unskilled and people do change their jobs over time AND Joseph and Annie are on it with her !.

Address:
15 Taylor St Gorton Manchester

SMITH, John Head Married M 41 1870 General Labourer Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, Eliza Wife Married
16 years F 40 1871 Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, John Son Single M 15 1896 Office - Boy Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, Joseph Son M 13 1898 School Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, Stephen Son M 3 1908 Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, Annie Daughter F 10 1901 School Manchester Lancashire
SMITH, Edith Daughter F 7 1904 School Manchester Lancashire

On image it says that 6 children born,1 died,5 living.


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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 21:46

1901

Address:
43, Casson Street, Gorton

SMITH, John Head Married M 31 1870 Labourer Ironworks
Gorton
Lancashire
SMITH, Eliza Wife Married F 30 1871
Gorton
Lancashire
SMITH, John Son M 5 1896
Gorton
Lancashire
SMITH, Joseph Son M 3 1898
Gorton
Lancashire
SMITH, Annie Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Gorton
Lancashire


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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 21:55

Possible marriage for John and Eliza,but with Smiths you really need to cross and double cross ref everything.

Marriages Dec 1894
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Morris Eliza Chorlton 8c 1042
Smith John Chorlton 8c 1042


Do you have Ediths exact date of birth or know when ,where and under what name she died as after 1967 I think it is the exact date of birth is given on death regs,if known of course..

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 21:58

Message from Graham.

Thats great,thanks a lot.I am still trying to get the hang of this site.
From Graham.

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And if you give me details for Fred Lea I will try and find him for you if you havent already.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 22:02

There are far too many births of Edith Smith to try and pick her out,but only 2 for a Stephen Smith,and I think the 1907 one is the most likely as no second names are given for any of the children on 1911or on Ediths marriage cert.

Taken from ...Freebmd...free and easy to use.

Births Jun 1907
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SMITH Stephen Chorlton 8c 835

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Births Jun 1908
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Smith Stephen Thomas Chorlton 8c 906

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 22:06

Name: Edith Lea
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1903
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 928


So her birth would have been registered in the March quarter of the the following year.
So by rights she SHOULD be one of these..

Births Mar 1904
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Smith Edith Chorlton 8c 989
Smith Edith Chorlton 8c 799

Graham

Graham Report 5 Feb 2010 22:08

I have Freds details[he was my grandfather]He was born in Knutsford in 20.6.1904.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 22:13

Welcome on here at last Graham,so much easier to speak on here and all info in one place to be looked at easily.

1911 your grandad?

Address:
Princess Street Back Knutsford

LEA, Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Railway Porter Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Mary Ann Wife Married
21 years F 43 1868 Devonshire Plymouth
LEA, Tom Son Single M 15 1896 Carter Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Ethel Daughter F 13 1898 Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Frank Son M 12 1899 School Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Albert Son M 10 1901 School Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Fred Son M 6 1905 School Cheshire Knutsford
LEA, Elsie Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Cheshire Knutsford
MOORE, Patrick Boarder Single M 34 1877 Prison Warder Co Wicklow Ireland
WILLIAMS, John Boarder Single M 40 1871 Prison Warder Dover Kent
DUFF, James Andrew Boarder Single M 25 1886 Printer Compositor Kilmernock Fifeshire
HARRIS, Arthur Boarder Single M 31 1880 Prison Warder Devonshire Honiton

On image 8 children born ,8 living.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 22:18

If you need more help let me know,on here.
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Graham

Graham Report 5 Feb 2010 22:21

Thanks,
I cant believe all this info i have recieved in the last twenty minutes.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 Feb 2010 22:31

You would have had it yesterday if you had hung around to answer questions,but better to be late than never....:))

Happy to be of assistance.
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