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Aveyronnaise. Great - looking forward to opening the box! But I must have supper now - it's all ready. Back soon.

What, the pm? Just means I have sent you a private message - click on "messages" on the top menu bar and you should have a purple envelope in your inbox. It's from me!!

Hi Nicola - curiouser and curiouser. Elizabeth

Sorry, Aveyronnaise, but I don't understand!

Yes, but on that basis we can probably discount that Arthur anyway, as we know the children were from London boroughs.

Elizabeth - I have pm'd you.

Aveyronnaise - Goodness! What a lot of work! And - nowhere so far. But I like your sense of humour.

Re your next message. Yes the parents were from Finsbury Park.

I'll keep trying.

This is all I have managed to come up with - their parents in Finsbury Park:



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WHARTON, Milner Head Married
36 years M 61 1850 Fishmonger Shopkeeper London St Georges VIEW
WHARTON, Regia Elizabeth Wife Married
36 years F 56 1855 Oxfordshire VIEW
WHARTON, Walter Joseph Son Widower M 29 1882 Milkman Roundsman London Paddington VIEW
WHARTON, Vivien Florence Daughter Single F 23 1888 Maida Tale London VIEW
WHARTON, Alick Son Single M 20 1891 Fishmongers Assistant In Shop London Paddington VIEW
WHARTON, Henry George Son Single M 19 1892 Electrician London Paddington VIEW
WHARTON, Milner Son M 11 1900 Shepherds Bush VIEW

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On 1911 the Arthur Wharton in Holbeck is Arthur Stables Wharton ... either this is not him, or he has accidentally listed where he spends his working day as part of his own name (actually he's a joiner) but here he is anyway:

WHARTON, Arthur Stables Head Married M 31 1880 Joiner Liversedge Yorkshire VIEW
WHARTON, Nelly Wife Married
4 years F 29 1882 Weaver Beeston Royds Yorkshire VIEW

The Frank at King's Norton clearly isn't the right one either:

WHARTON, Florence Lambert Head Widow F 55 1856 Oxfordshire Deddington VIEW
WHARTON, Florence Rose Daughter Single F 31 1880 Yorkshire Parkgate VIEW
WHARTON, Frank Arthur Son Single M 29 1882 Bank Clerk Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHARTON, Alec John Son Single M 29 1882 Insurance Clerk Staffordshire Darlaston VIEW
WHARTON, William Edgar Son Single M 23 1888 Assistant Analytical Chemist Staffordshire Darlaston VIEW
HOITT, Frank Burden Boarder Single M 28 1883 Engineers Clerk Glostershire Lydbrook VIEW

and the Frederick Wharton in King's Norton has taken to riding bikes instead of horses!

WHARTON, Frederick Head Married M 27 1884 Cycle Agent And Repairer Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
WHARTON, Amy Wife Married F 27 1884 Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW

Hmm. Will try and find the Whartons you are actually looking for!!

I hope you don't get this twice - I lost my first attempt!
Sorry, I should have thanked three GR members.

This is the information I have about the three brothers, Arthur Milner Wharton b.1879, Frank Wharton b.1883, Frederick Dudley Wharton b1885.
Parents: Milner and Elizabeth Wharton. (Census error - Kharton)

Difficult to find them once they had left home.
I did find Frederick on the 1901 Census in Newmarket, however.

All three brothers became jockeys and went to Belgium. (The wars presented some interesting stories still to be investigated.)
I have found some information from the 1911 Census -
Arthur, 31 Holbeck, Yorks, West Riding.
Frank 29 Kings Norton, Worcs.
Frederick 27 Kings Norton, Worcs.
and would like to know the names of the brothers' wives.
Also, of course, any other information you could help me with.
Many thanks.

Thank you both so very, very much. I'll write more later as I have to go out now.
Elizabeth.

This looks as if it's him in 1901, can't decipher birthplace but he is a servant, stables, groom.


1901 England Census
about Arthur Wharton
Name: Arthur Wharton
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Cerul Abba, England

Civil parish: MacClesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: MacClesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: East Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Davies 31
Beatrice Davies 30
Frances Hickson 36
Edward Springett 29
Arthur Wharton 21
Richard Middleton 15
James Burgin 32
Tom Barnes 23

Christine

1881 England Census
Name: Arthur Kharton
[Arthur Wharton]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Melner
Mother's Name: Elzabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington (6 Foscote News)

Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Foscote Mews
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Melner Kharton 31
Elzabeth Kharton 26
Gertrude Kharton 3
Arthur Kharton 1




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 11; Folio: 71; Page: 43; GSU roll: 1341003.

Choccy, that one seems to disappear after 1881, or at least not with family in 1891.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Arthur Milner Wharton
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 18 May 1879
Father's Name: Milner Wharton
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wharton
Parish: Holy Trinity, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Do you know his parents names or where he was born Elizabeth?

I cannot find any Arthur Wharton who is a jockey on the 1911.

Hi - I have the following information - Arthur Milner Wharton b.1879. I believe he was a jockey and lived in the West Riding at the time of the 1911 Census. I would very much like to know who he was married to.
Thanks.