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Thanks for that. The Ann who is definitely mine gives her birth year as 1823 three times and 1824 once. So probably not. Hmm.

This is the Ann in Huddersfield, birth a year out actually. s

Address is Kirgate. If this one was born in the same place the baptism would probably be at St. Peters.



Name: Ann Gill
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Huddersfield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gill 60 corn miller
Hannah Gill 51
Emma Gill 20
Martha Gill 25
Ann Gill 19
William Gill 18
John Gill 8

Edited, this must be her baptism so probably not yours.

ANN GILL Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
07 OCT 1821 Saint Peter, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM GILL Family
Mother: HANNAH

Christine

Thank you Janet, thanks Christine.

Christine, the Ann Gill living in Huddersfield town centre in 1841, who is she living with? Sounds like her, but the other people in the house may tell me more about who she was. Thanks!

I agree with Janet, would have thought she would have given her exact birthplace as she was living in Dalton in 1851. There is an Ann Gill living in Huddersfield town centre of correct age in 1841. Dalton is close to the town centre.

Also don't think the William posted in 1841 is yours as that one is a carpenter and yours was a blacksmith. The other William in Scullacoates was a cabinet maker so probably that one.

I have also tried to find a marriage but not had any luck.

Christine

Hi Julian1
on the 1861 there are two William Chapmans born Hull. The
Sculcoates William is still living there, the other William with a wife Ann is in the Wortley district- JLe

Thanks Janet. The 1851 to 1881 inclusive she lists place of birth as Huddersfield. You could well be right, but I cannot find any other Ann Gill's born 1823 in Huddersfield. This was the closest match I could find. Appreciate what you are saying though, I am nowhere near sure this is her, it is just the best thing I have to look into at the moment. Thanks

EDIT: meant to say the one baptised in Kirkburton was born Thurstonland if that is any closer to being classed as Huddersfield?

When you say that you only have Ann Gill on the census, could we check which census we are looking at.
If she had been baptised at Kirkburton she should have entered that as place of birth or somewhere which came within the parish of Kirkburton.-JLe

Ann Gill married William Chapman, but I cannot find a date for the marriage. Eldest child born 1848 so just before that I would imagine.

Did Ann Gill marry as her marriage cert should give her father's name.

Christine

Thanks again folks. Lots of great information to look at there.

With regard to Ann Gill, I only have her on the census as born about 1823 and place of birth Huddersfield. But this Ann born of Jonathan and Sarah looks to be the best candidate. I don't know how to prove it though.

I have Kirkburton baptisms booklet and can confirm the one from IGI is correct.

Ann Gill
Birth 13th Sept 1823
Baptism 4th Jan 1824

Father Jonathan
Mother Sarah
Abode Thurstonland but occupation of father is given as weaver.

I am actually from the next village to Thurstonland.

Christine

Possible only.

Baptism for Ann Gill


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ANN GILL Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 JAN 1824 Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JONATHAN GILL Family
Mother: SARAH


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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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C009722 1813 - 1837 0990701, 0990702 Film 6909766 Film



Andy

Possible baptisma for children of Edward and sarah

Results for: Chapman, Any Event, 1810 - 1830, British Isles
Father: Edward , Mother: Sarah
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International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 6
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1. MARY ANN CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1813 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

2. WILLIAM CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 APR 1820 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

3. JAMES CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAR 1818 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

4. ELIZA CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 NOV 1815 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

5. ROBERT CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 DEC 1822 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

6. EDWARD CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 AUG 1825 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England





Andy

Possible marriage Edward and Sarah

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EDWARD CHAPMAN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
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Death:
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Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH TYSON Family
Marriage: 20 MAY 1810 Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England



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Andy

Thank you both very much. Shoemaker was the family occupation so that looks possible. And Sculcoates was the district I heard Edward and Sarah were married in. Thanks again.

There are some free to search census records at freecen.org.uk A large proportion of the 1841 has been completed by the volunteers.

Possible for William Chapman. Sarah is a widow

1841 England Census
about William Chapman
Name: William Chapman
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Hundred: Harthill (Hunsley Beacon Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Chapman 50
Eliza Chapman 25
James Chapman 20 Cordwainer
William Chapman 20 app Cabinet maker
Robert Chapman 15 Labourer
Edward Chapman 15 ap Carpenter





Andy

This is the nearest I can find but there is no daughter called Ann:-

Name: Jonathan Gill
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Kirk Burton
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Shoe Maker

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Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Jonathan Gill 45
Sarah Gill 40
Ellen Gill 13
Martha Gill 11
Jonathan Gill 9
Malinda Gill 1

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1277; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Kirk Burton; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 17; Folio: 32; Page: 2; Line: 13; GSU roll: 464246.

Ages are rounded down to the nearest 5 years on the 1841 census.

I can't find the Chapmans in Hull.

Kath. x

Hello
Two questions in one - hope that isn't too cheeky, just seemed pointless making two posts.

I am looking for 1841 census records for Edward Chapman (date of birth unknown) and Sarah living in Hull. I am hoping there is a son William living with them, born about 1820. And also the 1841 census for Jonathan Gill (b.1789) and Sarah living in Thurstonland, Kirkburton or Huddersfield. I am hoping there is a daughter called Ann born about 1823.

If someone could have a quick look for me please, it would be fantastic!
Many thanks!