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Birth Grandfather

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ceri

ceri Report 9 Jan 2010 23:27

I have been asked by my mother to help her find her birth father. She lost contact with him about 15-20 years ago.
The problem being i am not sure how to go about finding him.
He has quite a common name so of course there could be many of him.
This is what we know.
His name Robert Alan Stevens born 1944 Islington, UK.
He married my nan Shirley May Toner in 1964 in Thurrock Essex, but were divorced by 1968.
He was then with a lady named Jasmine (surname unknown) who was a fire eater and died of the meths used during one of her acts! We are not sure what year she died but am pretty sure he was married to her.
He then married another lady name unknown about 1990.
All of this would be in Essex, and is believed that he is still living in Essex.
He had/has a sister named Kathleen M Stevens born 1946 in Islington.
His parents were Kathleen Luscombe and Kenneth Stevens both born 1920/1921.
My mother is believed to be his only child.

My mum had a feeling a couple of months back that Robert had passed away (she had the same feeling the day my grt nan died) I know this doesnt mean anything, i have tried calling the local reg offices and they dont have any record of a death for him.

I dont know what else i would do to try to find him or any living relatives, for example his sister or similar to be able to get in contact with.
Any help appreciated

ceri

ceri Report 10 Jan 2010 22:30

Yes Marina is my mother.

Thanks for your help it is much appreciated.

ceri

ceri Report 10 Jan 2010 22:34

I did find this death which is the only death registered for Jasmine Stevens between 1916 - 2005. I guess the year of birth would be about right as Robert was born 1944 so would make her 5 years older than him which is quite possible. And she died aged only 30 which also sounds correct given the circumstances of my Jasmine's death.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Jasmine May Stevens
Name: Jasmine May Stevens
Birth Date: 1939
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1603

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Jan 2010 23:36

The only way to find out if that is "your"Jasmine is to send for it I am afraid.
Although I could not find a marriage for her or a birth,so she may just have taken the name Stevens.

£7 from the GRO.
viv

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 Jan 2010 23:41

Jasmine appears to have 2 names. Perhaps one was a stage name.

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Jasmine Trevanna
Name: Jasmine Trevanna
Spouse Surname: Stevens
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968
Registration district: Hampstead
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 1868
Find Spouse: Robert A Stevens

and

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Jasmine J Chamberlain
Name: Jasmine J Chamberlain
Spouse Surname: Stevens
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968
Registration district: Hampstead
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 1868
Find Spouse: Robert A Stevens

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 Jan 2010 23:51

There also appears to be an older brother called Kenneth. Did you know about him? Might be easier to trace him.

Rose

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Jan 2010 23:57

Or a previous marriage?

Well done Rose ,I give up .
I think I need a long holiday,I find nothing these days.

Oh dear,if the death is her it was a very short marriage unfortunately

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 11 Jan 2010 00:20

Rose, 1968 marriage, possibly touchy details ...

I could have married in 1968, don't want mine here!

The death record is for a Jasmine *M*.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Jan 2010 00:23

Found a Jasmine J Biswas born 1938 in Hampstead who married a Chamberlain.

I'm guessing Jamine Trevanna was a stage name. Very few Trevannas are listed.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Jan 2010 00:26

Janey,

Figured no one would mind as Jasmine is deceased and Alan's details are already on the thread.

Rose

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 11 Jan 2010 00:27

Just thinking if it wasn't actually the right Jasmine, Rose. But looks like it is!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Jan 2010 01:03

And the way I see it is if it were me looking for my father I wouldnt mind it all being here as then he may actually be found,wether he liked it or not !

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 11 Jan 2010 01:25

Well ......... Ian has the possible 1990 marriage now, and only the certificate will tell whether that's his grandfather. There's also a 1991 in Waltham Forest which I think could qualify as Essex, does he have that?

If he can confirm the marriage he'll know the wife's name.

The 1990 couple are on the electoral roll, aged 65+; the 1991 couple, can't tell, some approximate matches on the electoral roll.


Tip, btw. 192.com is now cutting off free searches after a max and it doesn't seem to be daily. Clear 192.com cookies and start over.

ceri

ceri Report 14 Jan 2010 11:27

I have just looked on the 192.com website and think i have found him.
Is there anyone who can look at the records on there?
The one i have found is Robert A Stevens aged 65+ living in Barking, with a Mary K Stevens.
Please let me know

Roberts latest wife that we know of (the one he married about 1990, which we believe to be Mary K Wiggett), had two children from a previous relationship/marriage.

Which would have been born in the late 70's we presume

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 14 Jan 2010 14:20

You can go to either Whirley's thread or Jean's thread (not both!) and send her a PM asking for an electoral roll looup.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1190509

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1191569

(I keep them bookmarked!)

Give the details you can see -- the people in the household -- and she will send you the complete details.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 14 Jan 2010 14:31

I think Jean may have deleted Janey.She has gone from my threads,unless Im doing my usual and not looking correctly.
Ian has asked for a lookup on Records and has been directed from there .:)

ceri

ceri Report 14 Jan 2010 19:49

Someone has pm'd me asking if i actually ever got the electoral roll look up and i have replied saying that i havent so hopefully they will come back with some hopeful details for me, so i will wait to hear from her before i contact either of the 2 you suggested.

Sorry but im only asking for some help and advice as not had to do this before but just feel i am another person that has become a firing target.

Edit: Ok the lady has emailed me back again so now just waiting for some more details if possible