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Super it all is coming together and your all showing the evidence I'm related to Papworths, which 2 days ago I was unsure of but now I get it ! Fanx guys keep in touch x

One last find (as FBMD has a choice of two wives called Emma for Henry Ayris (Sarah Elizabeth's parents):

Marriage:
Ayris Henry Stepney 2 530 OND 1846.
Passworth Emma Stepney 2 530 OND 1846.
Penny Emma Stepney 2 530 OND 1846.


Name: Henry Ayris
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emma Papworth
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Dec 1846
Parish: Saint Thomas, Stepney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Ayris.
Henry a shoemaker, ditto James Ayris his father and Thomas Papworth Bride's father. Winesses, Robert Ayris & Eliza Bruce.
Emma's surname is hard to read on register, hence FBMD Passworth, but father Thomas is definitely written Papworth.

But Beatrice after all these many threads in the last few days you must be picking up something.

Have you tried a single search of your own at FreeBMD just for instance yet?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

The International Genealogy Index?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp

How about the 1881 census? It's available at familysearch.org

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

but I prefer the search function at Ancestry where it is also free.

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572

of course you can search all censuses at Ancestry

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx

you just can't see details for other years.

At this rate you're going to have your entire family tree back to 1800 from work done entirely by other people, which is no fun at all and will leave you with nothing to do but colour in the leaves on the printout.

Sarah in 1851 ? Brother of head of household ties in with family of James and Mary Ann Ayris:

Census 1851

Name: Henry Ayris
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges East, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Henry Ayris 24 St Georges East, Middlesex, England.
Emma Ayris 24 Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England
Sarah Ayris 3 St Georges East, Middlesex, England
Joseph Ayris 20 BROTHER St Georges East, Middlesex, England.
Thos Papworth 20

Henry and Joseph are both cordwainers, Emma a dressmaker. Family living
3, Matilda St, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England.

Possible marriage for James Ayris, though spouse is plain Mary rather than Mary Ann:

Name: James Ayris
Spouse Name: Mary Walker
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Feb 1816
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Sibs for Henry Josiah Ayris born 1827:

Name: John William Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 21 Feb 1819
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Name: George Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 11 Dec 1825
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Name: Joseph Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 23 Aug 1829
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Name: Josiah Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 3 Apr 1831
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Name: Frederick Charles Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 14 Aug 1836
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Possible baptism for Henry Josiah Ayris, father of Sarah, but needs cross reffing with census:

Name: Henry Josiah Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 13 May 1827
Father's Name: James Ayris
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ayris
Parish: Saint George In The East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex.
Born 13th jan 1827, father a cordwainer, family living Ratcliff Highway.

Sarah Elizabeth's baptism (on the register entry it gived her birth as ??? 29th 1848) brother Henry Josiah born 1851 baptised same day:

Name: Sarah Elizabeth Ayris
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 27 Dec 1857
Father's Name: Henry Josiah Ayris
Mother's Name: Emma Ayris
Parish: Saint Peter, London Docks
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex
Family living 17 Essex St, Henry is a shoemaker.

Well Ann, Lets say I'm still not in full swing of it yet and a little sore LOL !!!!!!!!

you are not a virgin any more!!!!! sorry about that

yes many thanks there was 12 al together x

Are these all births for your nan's siblings? All found on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Skinner Henry G Daniels Poplar 1c 986 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
SKINNER Charlotte Daniels Poplar 1c 992 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Skinner Beatrice D Daniels Poplar 1c 912 Scan available - click to view
Skinner Lilian S Daniels Poplar 1c 912 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1918 (99%)
Skinner Maud Daniels Poplar 1c 540 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
SKINNER John T Daniels Poplar 1c 825 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Skinner Dorothy A Daniels Poplar 1c 751 Scan available - click to view

Many thanks to all helping me am so green at this and pc virgin plz all carry on, really do appreciate the help and so many lovely people Ive met. I am having a real fab time thnk u all tons x

Beatrice - to make any comments or add anything to this use the purple reply box near yurheading - click n it and it will open up a reply box for you

1901 census transcription details for: 14, Morgan Street, Mile End Old Town
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 335 Folio: 51 Page: 34

Reg. District: Mile End Old Town Sub District: Mile End Old Town Eastern
Parish: Mile End Old Town Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: Stepney (Holy Trinity) City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 14, Morgan Street, Mile End Old Town
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SKINNER, Sarah Head Widow F 52 1849
St Georges East
London
SKINNER, Arthur Son Single M 27 1874 Gas Fitter
Stepney
London
SKINNER, Charles Son Single M 22 1879 Painter's Labourer
Mile End Old Town
London
SKINNER, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884 General Servant (Domestic)
Canning Town
Essex
SKINNER, James Son Single M 14 1887 Van Guard
Bow
London
SKINNER, Charlotte Daughter Single F 13 1888
Bow
London
SKINNER, Henry Son M 10 1891
Bow
London
SKINNER, Daisy Daughter F 8 1893
Bow
London

Witnesses were Frederick Ayris and Elizabeth Skinner, I think.

Name: Sarah Elizabeth Ayris
Spouse Name: Arthur Alexander Skinner
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Aug 1868
Parish: Saint Thomas, Stepney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Henry Ayris deceased
Spouse Father Name: Alexander Skinner shipwright


Name: George Gordon Skinner tiler
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Spouse Name: Louisa Jane Daniels
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 May 1905
Parish: Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Arthur Alexander Skinner engineer
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Daniels dock labourer


Resident at 14 Morgan Street, Witnesses were Arthur and Martha Skinner.




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Daisy Skinner
Name: Daisy Skinner
Record Type: Baptism
Date: Dec 1892
Father's Name: Arthur Alexander Skinner
Mother's Name: Sarah Skinner
Parish: Saint Paul, Old Ford
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex


Born 12 November, resident at School House, Chalmesbury? Road. Her father was a school keeper?



Name: Elizabeth Sarah Skinner
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Jul 1871
Father's Name: Arthur Skinner engineer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Sarah Skinner
Parish: Saint Peter, London Docks
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex Resident 18 Driver's Buildings.




Name: Arthur Alexander Skinner
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 48
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 408 (click to see others on page)

1881 census
Name: George Skinner
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Arthur
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: All Saints Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Suffolk St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Skinner 35
Sarah Skinner 33
Elizabeth Skinner 10
Arthur Skinner 7
George Skinner 5
Charles Skinner 3



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Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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Skinner George Gordon Mile End 1c 531

1881 -

1887 dob here for Louisa

William DANIELS Head M Male 34 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Shoemaker
Elizabeth DANIELS Wife M Female 37 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth DANIELS Dau Female 11 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Ernest W. DANIELS Son Male 9 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Eliza DANIELS Dau Female 6 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Louisa DANIELS Dau Female 4 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 90 Bemerton St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341052
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0237 / 98
Page Number 64

Would like to make contact their son George Gordon Skinner was my great grandad 1876 he married Louisa Jane Daniels 1881 in Stepney 28.5.1905 they had 10-12 children my nan was a twin Beatrice daisy and Lillian Sarah Skinner 20,5.1916. My nan married Jacob Grossman 1918. Any info on any one would be g8 , I am pc virgin and tree searching ALIEN !!!!!!!!!! to me plz HELP.