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<Further to my earlier message, apologies if I have upset anyone through not appreciating how the syatem works. I had presumed I would need to wait at least a couple of days before receiving a response but clearly I was wrong. Thanks again to everyone

I am both amazed and delighted at the level of help and responses I have received. My grandmother was Eveline Wilkinson who unfortunately died in 1918 when my mother was born. Bessie,, Hilda and Frederick Edgar were her siblings. I have no contact or information regarding that side of the family and that is why I am trying to locate their descendants. I believe that Edward Russell who was a cycle maker and who married Hilda May have moved to the south coast possibly Brighton. My principal search method has so far been through other family trees but I have not had any success.
My sincere thanks to everyone who has responded

I really do hate it when the poster has the information that would help with their request.

My crystal ball is not that good so that I can read minds LOL

Poor thing has been thrown against the wall too often for it to work properly now.


Have to say girls a brilliant result. What good teamwork.

Maureen

Oh (and then a lot of bleeps).
I love the "hope this is helpful".

We did our best and the Glittery one pulled off a miracle right before our very eyes. I'd say that was worth it!!!!!

Maureen

I PM'd Ian asking if he would please leave feedback on his Thread --he has PM'd this
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Hi Barbara

Many thanks for your response. In 1911 census Tracer Bicycle Works.Ernest William Russell born Q4 1884 St George Hanover Square 1a 462. Apparantly living with his sister Annie Elizabeth Pack aged 34.whose husband Jim Pack was a Police constable born in Hunts Buckworts 1871 They married in 1901 AMJ Ia 997. His wife was Hilda Wilkinson who was born in Lambeth.
Hope this is helpful

Regards and Happy new Year

Ian
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Now, Ian, if you already knew all this info what is it you are "trying to find" on Ernest William ?

Barbara

1881 census
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George RUSSELL Head M Male 37 S Martins, Middlesex, England Lighterman
Annie RUSSELL Wife M Female 36 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Annie E. RUSSELL Daur Female 5 Westminster, Middlesex, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 19 Grosvenor Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341025
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0110 / 36
Page Number 15

1891 census

Name: Ernest W Russell
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England

Civil parish: St John The Evangalist Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Russell 45
Annie Russell 43
George Russell 9
Elsey L Russell 6
Ernest W Russell 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 78; Folio 134; Page 14; GSU roll: 6095188.

1901 Census ?

Name: Ernest W Russell
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England

Civil parish: St John The Evangelist Westminster and St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret and St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Russell 53--widow--born Lambeth
Geo S Russell 19--born Westminster
Elfie L Russell 16--born Westminster
Ernest W Russell 11--born Westminster
James Russell 36--boarder--born Scotland
John Heath 25--boarder
Wm Tuck 27--boarder

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 92; Folio: 72; Page: 16.

That WAS utterly amazing! And under 15 minutes!!!!!
(did you have your crystal balls updated for 2010 or something??)
Just don't break them!

Maureen
PS Can now see Ernest's family quite clearly-father George was a lighterman. Mom was Annie. (1881 Annie E is with them-but not on 1891).

Hi Glitter Baby

I am just having a little laugh to myself, As you put your last posting on I was just thinking, Glitter Baby must have had a new Crystal Ball for Christmas--It was with your info that I found them on 1911.

All the best
Barbara (from Yorkshire)

Ian you can reply to your thread by clicking on the Purple "Reply" Button on the top.

Flaming heck girls !!!!

Some how have got a result

So Ann Elizabeth Pack was her married name which was not made clear in the request.

No surname give for Ernest anywhere in the request.

Marriage details were not correct either.


Think the crystal balls need a good clean after this one


Maureen

I think the straws GBaby was clutching at are pretty sturdy!!!!!
Name: Hilda Ellen Mary Wilkinson
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Spouse Name: Ernest William Russell Occ: cyclemaker
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 May 1913
Parish: Saint Mary, Stepney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: George Frederick Wilkinson Occ: Liftman
Spouse Father Name: George Samuel Russell deceased
Witnesses:Frederick Edgar Wilkinson and Gladys Thorpe??

Maureen

What about this one for "Ann"
Marriages Jun (quarter) 1901
>>>>Pack Jim St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 997
PRIOR Adolphus G H St. Geo. H. Sq 1a 997
Rogers Kate Louise St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 997
>>>Russell Annie Elizabeth St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 997

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and 1911 census for them

1911 census transcription details for: 13 Grosvenor St Westminster
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN470 RG78PN16 RD5 SD3 ED5 SN360

Reg. District: St George Sub District: St Margaret and St John
Parish: St Margaret and St John Enum. District: 5
Address: 13 Grosvenor St Westminster
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
PACK, Jim Head Married M 40 1871 Police Constable Buckworth Hunts
PACK, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married
9 years F 34 1877 London Westminster
PACK, Anne Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1904 London Lambeth
PACK, Elsie Helen Daughter F 5 1906 London Westminster
PACK, James George Son M 2 1909 London Westminster
PACK, Ellen Louisa Daughter F 6 1905 London Westminster
RUSSELL, Ernest William Brother Single M 21 1890 Tracer Bicycle Works London Westminster
WHITLOCK, Harriett Lodger Widow F 29 1882 Office Cleaner London Westminster
WHITLOCK, Ada Blanch Daughter Widow F 4 1907 Bordon Hants




Just noticed !!! Ernest William Russell is living with them .

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Argent Jessie A Hackney 1b 1008
Donovan Mary A A E Hackney 1b 1008
Pack Ernest W Hackney 1b 1008
Ryan William P Hackney 1b 1008



then this marriage might match the 1901 census?

Clutching at straws with this suggestion

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Brisley Alfred C Sayers St. Geo. East 1c 394
Russell Ernest W Wilkinson St. Geo. East 1c 394
Sayers Sarah R Brisley St. Geo. East 1c 394
Wilkinson Hilda E M Russell St. Geo. East 1c 394




Really need some feedback from the poster

Confused

The only birth listed for Ann Elizabeth Pack is in Northampton in 1855

i am seeking information Ernest who was born in London, Hanover Square, in 1889 and who married |Hilda Wilkinson in Eastbourne in 1913. I believe he may have had a cycle shop in the area. He had a sister Ann Elizabeth Pack who was married to a policeman