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If anone can please help, trying to trace were my grandfather served in the Argyl and Southern Highlanders. He joined around 1915/16 (he was born in 1898 Alexander Fulton) and came from Busby nr Glasgow.
Not sure how the scottish records work, I'm in England but have family in Scotland but don't know how to get info. Also need his birth certificate so that I can trace his father(Hugh).
Happy Hogmanay to you all.
Mary

Hi Mary,

Could this be him?

Alexander Fulton
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relationship: Grandson
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Bellshill, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 571/1
Registration district: Busby
Civil parish: Mearns
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Cottage Row
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 105
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_201
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Fulton 76
Janet Fulton 48
Marion Fulton 46
Isabella Fulton 37
Agnes Fulton 28
James Fulton 32
Thomas Fulton 26
Alexander Fulton 2
Birth certificates can be viewed on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.
It is a pay to view site. I think it is £6 for 30 credits.

Regards,
Sorcha

Mary

I have looked on Ancestry to see if his records have survived, the only thing i could find is a medal card, but these do not give much detail and unless you have his service number no way of telling if this record is his.

Name: Alexander Fulton
Regiment or Corps: Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, Northumberland Fusiliers, Hampshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 19545, 54245, 06188

Note this records states he served in two other regimentsAre you aware of this?which would help to confirm

In case you are not aware, 70% of service records were destroyed in WW2 so its always a bit of luck if someones records survived




Here is a link to the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders history in WW1
which might help
http://www.1914-1918.net/argyll.htm

Also you could make contact with the Regimental musem etc. they might help, just Google they have a website.

George

Here is a link to all the Battilions of the Argyll& Sutherland Highlanders in WW1


http://www.theargylls.co.uk/battalionsww1.php


George

Hi Mary

You will nead Scotlands People for the birth cert its a pay for view site but its only £6 for 30 credits so this is enough to help get you started. The birth cert will give you details of his mother and father and also where and when they were married which may allow you to look at their marriage cert if the marriage took place up here and this will give you both sets of parents details to allow you to further your search. You can also print off all certs that you view which is much cheaper than ordering one from the Registrars

Regards Jackie.


http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Here's a choice of births from 1895-1900.
All of Scotland...........

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data

1 1897 FULTON ALEXANDER M HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 1510
2 1897 FULTON ALEXANDER M KIRKMAIDEN /WIGTOWN 890/00 0026
3 1897 FULTON ALEXANDER M KINNING PARK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/14 0796
4 1898 FULTON ALEXANDER M BELLSHILL /LANARK 625/03 0293
5 1898 FULTON ALEXANDER M TRADESTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/13 0515
6 1898 FULTON ALEXANDER M COATBRIDGE OR OLD MONKLAND /LANARK 652/02 1394
7 1900 FULTON ALEXANDER M GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/02 1516
8 1895 FULTON ALEXANDER BROWN M HOLYTOWN /LANARK 625/02 0343
9 1899 FULTON ALEXANDER CAMER M DUMBARTON /DUNBARTON 496/00 0459
10 1898 FULTON ALEXANDER DOUGL M LINWOOD /RENFREW 568/02 0037
11 1900 FULTON ALEXANDER EDING M ST ANDREW EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0364
12 1898 FULTON ALEXANDER JACK M MUIRKIRK /AYR 607/00 0027
13 1899 FULTON ALEXANDER MACDO M GIRVAN /AYR 594/00 0066
14 1898 FULTON JOHN ALEXANDER M HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0648

He was living in Cottage row Busby in parish of Mearns, Renfrewshire, in 1901 census, named as grandson.
Other s in the house were Agness D, Isabella D, Isabella Head of house asuming to be his gran. James S, Janet D, MarionD, Thomas S.
We beleived his mother to be Isabella but i suppose it could be Marion as we don't have a birthcertificate.

Hi Mary,
this looks like his birth on SP.

1898 FULTON ALEXANDER M BELLSHILL /LANARK 625/03 0293

If you go online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk you can view cert if you buy credits.It is one credit for a basic search as above and 5 credits to view the actual certificate which you can then print or save. It will tell you who his father and mother were and usually when they married and also present address so you would be able to confirm if it was your Alexander Fulton.
Regards,
Sorcha

Hi George, the information you passed to me seems to match info I have just received from my aunt in Dunfirmline. She found a post card from him with the address as follows- Pte. Alexander Fulton, A.Coy. 4th Platoon, 4th A.S.H. Redford Barrocks Colinton, Edinbourgh No 19545. Will this info get me nearer to finding out about his medals? This was just before his posting to Egypt and Cypress, think there were 2medals.

My aunts believe there was only a piece of paper and no birth cert. as my grandfather was born out of wedlock and that you had to go to court in those days to get his birth verified. Cant seem to get any further back with this one.

Hello Mary

Re his medal card, yes this will show the medals he recieved, if you want the document you will have to PM me with your email address.

At the moment there seems to be a problem with Ancsetry and i cant view or download the image, but i will do it as soon as i can,

Let me know if you want this document
He received two medals The Victory And British medals
George

Hi Mary,
In Scotland Statutary Registratons for births, deaths and marriages became a requirement from 1855. It would be very unusual for a birth not to be registered in some form in 1899 approx even if person born out of wedlock. I have found relatives who were illegitimate registered under the mother's maiden name, one under a married name and one registerd under the name of a husband who had died.
Regards,
Sorcha

Hi Mary,

There is usually always a birth certificate whether legitimate or not, assuming that the birth was registered.
My gran was born two months before her parents married and the birth certificate showed the illegitimacy of the birth, also footnoted in the certificate that the marriage had taken place.
The following certificate would appear to fit your descriptions...........

1898 FULTON ALEXANDER M BELLSHILL /LANARK 625/03 0293

Birth registered by Isabella Fulton, July eighth, Bellshill.
Alexander Fulton, Illegitimate.
19/06/1898 @ 8.50 pm
Wallaces Land, Glebe St. Bellshill.
Isabella Fulton, Printfield Worker. (printworks, bleaching, dyeing materials.)
No father shown.

If that sounds like your man, can you send your e-mail address to me by Personal Message, I'll send you the certificate copy.

P.S. How do you know his father was named Hugh?

Hi Mary,

Thanks for the Personal Message reply confirming this to be your grandfather born out of wedlock, but if you can keep it on thread then others here will not waste their time and effort chasing red herrings.
It also means they can concentrate their searches on the proper areas giving you a fighting chance of tracking down the father.

Are you quite sure that your grandad's father was called Hugh and on which certificate did this appear ?

Sorry Mary,

Computer problems..............Do you have a Higgins in your family?

This is your Aunties piece of paper...........it's the document from the Sheriff Court, Glasgow stating your grandfather's dad to be Thomas Higgins.
The note is a legal instruction to add Thomas Higgins above the mother's name as father on the birth certificate.
As they cannot change certificates once issued, they make a note on edge of certificate stating that details may be found in the Register of Corrected Entries (RCE).

I've typed out a transcript of the document as it is hard to see it all but here is what I can make out....XXXX is what I can't make out.

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PAGE 55

Register of Corrected Entries for the District of Bellshill in the County of Lanark.

X XXX of court relative to the paternity of one illegitimate child.
In the fourth column of (birth) certificate No. 293 in the Register of Births for June 1898.
Before the name of the child's mother, insert Thomas Higgins.
Make note in the authority of the (birth) certificate in the form of schedule X to the following effect.
That an action relative to the paternity of a male child named Alexander Fulton
born June nineteenth 1898 at Wallaces Land, Glebe Street, Bellshill
at the instance of XX Isabella Fulton, Printfield worker, Cottage Row, Busby against
Thomas Higgins xxxxxxx (labourer ?) 117 Alexandra Parade, Glasgow.

The Sheriff Courts of Glasgow on the eighth day of November 1898
found that the said child was the illegitimate child of the named aforesaid.

Witness my hand this 16th day of November 1898
Signed Alexander Pearson ? Sheriff Clerk
Bellshill, 17th November 1898
Robert Black ? Registrar.

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Alexandra Parade is in Dennistoun in the east end of Glasgow and there are several Thomas Higgins on 1901 census in the area.

Drop me your e-mail and I'll send a copy of certificates.
Good luck,

Frank.

Thank you to George
for sending info regarding my Grandads medals re- his medical card. My aunt has obtained another pair to replace ones lost years ago and is elated by the help thet everyone has given.
Also information from Frank regarding Alex Fulton as above, his real fathers name. I would not have known where to start.
Thankyou Mary