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I may be totaly wrong on this Vicki--but I had This down for Isabella ( who married Charles Norton) for the 1861 census So John and Margaret for parents? I think we had better wait for Phylis' birth cert and go from there, But I think you are going to need other certs too, to make sure we are on the right track!!

1861 census
Name: Isabelle Thornton
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester-Le-Street, Durham, England

Civil parish: Chester Le Street
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thornton 42--mason
Margaret Thornton 40
Nicholas Thornton 15
Isabelle Thornton 12
Jane Thornton 9
William Thornton 5
John Thornton 2

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3759; Folio: 15; Page: 26; GSU roll: 543183.

I think i was on the wrong track The names wasJane park it was Isabella mother no marriage i could find

Hi Vicki,
Which Mum do you think was Parks? Do you mean the Isabella that was married to Charles Norton ?
All the best
Barbara

Thank you Barbara My Auntie in New Zealand has the birthcert just wait for her to send it Once again THANK YOU I was thinking her mother was Parks

You are welcome, Vicki, but as I say without Phillis's birth cert you can't be SURE that any of this is the correct info for you.

Births December (quarter) 1910
COLLYER Phyllis
Hinckley 7a 41

All the best
Barbara

Vicki. Have you got Phyllis's Birth certificate ? If not all the info is only Possibles !!





1891 census

Margaret was a Boarder

Name: Margaret J Norton
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Hinckley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hinckley
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hinckley
Sub-registration district: Hinckley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Darwell 45
Mary B Darwell 20
Rachell A Darwell 17
Margaret J Norton 19

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2503; Folio 55; Page 6; GSU roll:6097613.

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1881

Name: Margaret J. Norton
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester Le Street, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stoney Stanton
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 20 Huncote Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hinckley
Sub-registration district: Burbage
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Norton 34
Isabella Norton 30
Mary E. Norton 12
Margaret J. Norton 10
John Norton 8
Fred Norton 6
Hannah Norton 3
Isabella Norton
John Thornton 21--lodger ( I think will be Isabella's Brother)

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3130; Folio: 119; Page: 15; GSU roll: 1341746.
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I think this MAYBE marriage of Isabella and Charles ( Parents of Margaret)

Marriages December (quarter) 1869
BROWN George Durham 10a 467
Myers Elizabeth Durham 10a 467
>>>>>Norton Charles Durham 10a 467
>>>>Thornton Isabella Durham 10a 467
Wears Margaret Durham 10a 467

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Happy New Year Thanks so vey much

Still having a look Vicki, but thought I would just say

HAPPY NEW YEAR

I don't think she married Collyer She may have been married before when I was able to look up she was in two places at once, one being her Grandmothers she may have had a child no-one knew about before Charles I think it was1891

I wonder if that is why we can't find a marriage for her ? Do you think she may have married abroad ?

I think this lady didn't always tell the truth I known she and Charles with to South Afrcia before Myra was born they came back before the birth .You are so helpful once again thank you so very much new eyes find things I have missed in the past

This looks like Margaret in the 1901 census --but she has lost a few years to 1891 and 1881 census --and charles gained a few years in 1911 census

Name: Margaret Norton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Hinckley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hinckley St Mary
Town: Hinckley
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 9, Brittannia Yard, Hinckley

Occupation: Hosiery Hand

Condition as to marriage: SINGLE

Registration district: Hinckley
Sub-registration district: Hinckley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Norton 26
Charles Norton 10 months--son

I can't find a Norton / Collyer marriage--but just checking somthing before I get back to you

She called her Bella so yes that's her For 10 years she thought it was her mum until her real one came and got her she never got over the shock

Hi Vicky

Wonder if this was the aunt that Philiss was left with

1911 census transcription details for: Highfield Street Earl Shilton
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN19027 RG78PN1137 RD402 SD3 ED8 SN228

Reg. District: Hinckley Sub District: Earl Shilton
Parish: Earl Shilton Enum. District: 8
Address: Highfield Street Earl Shilton
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HEXTALL, George W Head Married M 31 1880 Shoe Pressman Buckminster
HEXTALL, Isabella Wife Married 10 years F 30 1881 Stoney Stanton Leicestershire
HEXTALL, Dwendoline Daughter F 8 1903 School Earl Shilton Leicestershire
HEXTALL, Edith Daughter F 6 1905 School Earl Shilton Leicestershire
HEXTALL, George Son M 4 1907 Earl Shilton Leicestershire
HEXTALL, Charles Son M 1 1910 Earl Shilton Leicestershire

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This looks like Isabella/s marriage index--but without certificate can't be sure

Marriages Dec 1901
HEXTALL George William Hinckley 7a 130
NORTON Isabella Hinckley 7a 130

I have never been able to find the marriage of her mother

Sorry I mean she stayed in England with Aunt who's last name was Hextall I do thank you for the look up

Yes I say so I was told by my nana phyllis before she pasted she was left in England as a sick baby and the Family went to New Zealand With her Auntie Last name Hextall

Is this Phillis in 1911 census ?

1911 census transcription details for: 16 Coventry Road Hinckley Leicestershire
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN19017 RG78PN1136 RD402 SD2 ED10 SN92

Reg. District: Hinckley Sub District: Hinckley
Parish: Hinckley Enum. District: 10
Address: 16 Coventry Road Hinckley Leicestershire
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
COLLYER, Margaret Wife Married 8 years F 38 1873 Hosery Machine County Durham
COLLYER, Charley M 13 1898 School Chester Le Street Parish Leicestershire
COLLYER, Myra F 6 1905 School Parish Leicestershire
COLLYER, Philis F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Parish Leicestershire

They came from Leicestershire