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Marcelle
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15 Jan 2010 15:31 |
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Thanks, on the marriage cert it definatley says Joseph and occupation is engineer which would fit with Job's occupation.
I checked my marriage index's on cd and also found the marriage to Elizabeth Cousins. That was the only marriage for a Job Flook 1813 - 1837 for Bristol.
I have a gut feeling Joseph is Job. One of the witnesses William Malpowder is also a witness on another cert I have for another branch of my family.
On the marriage cert Sarah was living at (it looks something like Redcrop Street. On the 1861 census the other Sarah and her family are living at Grosvenor Place and on the same sheet it has Red**** Street
Marcelle
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Janet
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15 Jan 2010 12:36 |
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Looking at familysearch there is a marriage entered as Job Flook to Elizabeth Cousins 10 Oct 1830 St James Bristol. Know it isn't 100% but it does look like a possibility of a Job/Elizabeth.-JLe
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14 Jan 2010 22:01 |
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Just a quick thought.
Have you checked the original documents? Joseph is sometimes recorded as Jos. and could easily be misread as Job.
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Marcelle
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14 Jan 2010 18:52 |
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Anyone? lol
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Marcelle
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14 Jan 2010 16:43 |
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Thanks Carrieann
It's actually advice on the marriage cert that I am looking for now
Thanks anyway
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14 Jan 2010 16:20 |
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Hi Marcelle
Jonesey has an excellent thread on searching the 1911: www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1160992
Also, if you have a problem with doing a search with keyword on this site, and you just get the whirly thing or egg timer, hit reload page or refresh (maybe more than once!)
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Marcelle
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14 Jan 2010 15:51 |
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Updated: Marriage cert has arrived, please see above
Thanks
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29 Dec 2009 15:17 |
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1901 census - Person: BATH, Elsie Address: 20, Carlton Terrace, Devonport DUNN, James Head Married M 24 1877 Engine Driver (Contractors) Manchester VIEW DUNN, Jessie Wife Married F 24 1877 Compton Martin Somersetshire VIEW DUNN, James Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Devonport Devonshire VIEW BATH, Elsie Sister F 12 1889 Compton Martin Somersetshire
I am not sure if this is Sarah's daughter
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29 Dec 2009 15:12 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: BATH, Elsie Address: 129 Bath Road Knowle Bristol DONOVAN, John Head Married M 63 1848 Miller Flour Mills Bristol DONOVAN, Emily Wife Married 32 years F 53 1858 Weston S Mare Somerset BATH, Elsie Visitor Single F 22 1889 Compton Martin Nr Bristol
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Marcelle
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29 Dec 2009 11:11 |
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Thank you
I will use find my past. I have been doing it on 1911 online
Thanks again
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Thelma
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29 Dec 2009 11:03 |
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Use findmypast not 1911online 1911 Household BATH, Elsie 1899 12 F Bristol Gloucestershire Household BATH, Elsie 1889 22 F Bristol Gloucestershire Now someone with a subscription could tell you but I cannot. Do a new search,click on advanced.enter elsie bath in the bottom line and bristol in the registration district edit She is living with the Donovans
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Marcelle
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29 Dec 2009 10:44 |
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Thank you
How do you bring a family up together in 1911?
I found an Elsie in 1911 but can't find out who is in her household. I can't locate her in 1901 either
Elsie was born in 1888 in Bristol. She was the daughter of Sarah
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28 Dec 2009 22:06 |
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Actually, there's 3 Sarah's in 1911 since Nellie Sarah counts as a Sarah. However, she's the only Nellie, so we have:
HOUSEHOLD BATH PHILIP M 1849 62 Bristol Gloucestershire HOUSEHOLD BATH SARAH F 1847 64 Bristol Gloucestershire HOUSEHOLD BATH CHARLES EDWARD M 1876 35 Bristol Gloucestershire HOUSEHOLD BATH NELLIE SARAH F 1881 30 Bristol Gloucestershire
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Thelma
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28 Dec 2009 21:22 |
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There are two Sarah Bath in Bristol. 1911 BATH, Sarah 1847 64 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BATH, Sarah Ana 1837 74 F Bristol Gloucestershire //////////////////////////////////////////// Living with both Sarah's Household BATH, Charles Edward 1876 35 M Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BATH, Nellie Sarah 1881 30 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BATH, Philip 1849 62 M Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, Elizabeth 1875 36 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, James 1899 12 M Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, Lily 1905 6 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, Stefhen 1872 39 M Bristol Gloucestershire xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Living with Sarah Ana. take these off the first list Household BREDDY, Elizabeth 1875 36 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, James 1899 12 M Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, Lily 1905 6 F Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW VIEW Household BREDDY, Stefhen 1872 39 M Bristol Gloucestershire
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Marcelle
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28 Dec 2009 19:52 |
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Thanks for all your input. I did look at the Job family and I think in 1861 Sarah is a weaver which would tie in with her in later census being a cotton spinner.
Will order the marriage certificate.
That's my tree up the spout!! serves me right. I should have checked it out properly and not followed others!! Have gone back to 1754ish with the Flooks as well. I must have the wrong family for the paper to say Sarah, only child.
Many thanks again
Marcelle
PS I wonder if you know how to bring a family up together when searching the 1911 census? I have found a Sarah Bath and an Elsie Bath abt 1888 in 1911 but there are loads of other Bath's and I am not sure if you can bring the family up together on a free search. I am sure I read yesterday a man's guide to doing it but my advanced search will not work when I put in 1911 census. I reported it to GR a week ago and still not fixed.
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28 Dec 2009 19:27 |
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Is this the family 1881?
Name: Henry Bath Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 31 Gt George St Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Bath 42 Sarah Bath 40 (1841) Mary A. Bath 11 Joseph Bath 9 William Bath 7 Elizabeth Bath 5 Henry Bath 3
Class: RG11; Piece: 2498; Folio: 65; Page: 42; GSU roll: 1341602.
& 1871: Name: Sarah Bath Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Wm Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 399 Household Members: Name Age Wm Bath 22 Sarah Bath 22 (1849) Mary A Bath 1
Class: RG10; Piece: 2556; Folio: 67; Page: 61; GSU roll: 835264.
Had a peek at tree on Ancestry & they have
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Name: Sarah Flook Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Job Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip and St Jacob County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 1t Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 5 Household Members: Name Age >>>>>Job Flook 44 Elizabeth Flook 40 Amelia Flook 19 William Flook 16 Elizabeth Flook 12 Eliza Flook 7 John Flook 5 Sarah Flook 3 Maria Flook 9 Mo Charlot Flook 9 Class: HO107; Piece: 1954; Folio: 526; Page: 2; GSU roll: 87354.
1861: Name: Sarah Flook Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bristol St Philips, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: Weir County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Flook 49 John Flook 16 Sarah Flook 13 Job Flook 6
Class: RG9; Piece: 1717; Folio: 117; Page: 17; GSU roll: 542856.
Deaths Sep 1854 (>99%) Flook Job Clifton 6a 69
Sarah would only be 4 when father died. Perhaps she didn't know his name & 'copied' William's father name Joseph or perhaps minister took name down wrong and input Jospeh twice in error.
Best get a copy of marriage cert as witness names may tie in with siblings.
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28 Dec 2009 19:21 |
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Hi
Have you looked at this one? Father's name Job, but not unusual for Joseph's to be called Job, at least as far as I understand ;-))
1851 England Census about Sarah Flook Name: Sarah Flook Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Job Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip and St Jacob County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 1t Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Job Flook 44 Elizabeth Flook 40 Amelia Flook 19 William Flook 16 Elizabeth Flook 12 Eliza Flook 7 John Flook 5 Sarah Flook 3 Maria Flook 9 Mo Charlot Flook 9 View Original Record
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Marcelle
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28 Dec 2009 17:29 |
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Thanks Margaret
So it looks like Jospeh was definatley Sarah's dad. Its just the newspaper report 1860 stating Sarah Ann, only child of Joseph Flook. But my Sarah married in 1868. I can't find any other Sarah's with a dad Joseph before 1868
Thanks for looking though
Marcelle
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28 Dec 2009 17:25 |
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From BVRI:
BATH, William Age: 23 Marriage Wife: Sarah FLOOK Age: 20 Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1868 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Collection: St Philip and St Jacob Husband's Father: Joseph BATH Wife's Father: Joseph FLOOK Source: FHL Film 1596924 Dates: 1854 - 1869
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Marcelle
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28 Dec 2009 17:09 |
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Hi I wonder if I could just run this by you.
I have Henry Bath born 29 July 1878 at Ayers Lane, St Judes Bristol. On birth cert father is William Bath and mother is Sarah Bath formerly Sarah Flook.
Now on Ancestry there is this marrige for William Bath and Sarah Flook.
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about William Bath Name: William Bath Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1845 Age: 23 Father's Name: Joseph Bath Spouse's name: Sarah Flook Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Flook Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1868 Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
I looked for Sarah born abt 1848 in the census and found this one with a father Joseph
Name: Sarah Ann Flook Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Oldland, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Bitton Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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View image Registration district: Keynsham Sub-registration district: Bitton ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Flook 36 Eliza Flook 36 Moses James Flook 7 Sarah Ann Flook 5 Martha M Flook 4
All was going really well and I have been searching and found Joseph living in Paulton, Somerset in 861 (which would tie in with the will of his father Moses, or so I thought!)
I could not locate Sarah in 1861 before her marriage to William Bath. I was then searching through the newspapers and found an obituary for Sarah Ann Flook, 1860 only daughter of Joseph Flook of Paulton!
This has blown my research out of the water if this Sarah and Joseph are not mine it means I am totally wrong!
I am going to order the marriage cert for Sarah & William and see what it says about her dad but not sure which birth cert to go for. Any advice?
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Marcelle
MARRIAGE CERT has arrived today and father is noted as Joseph Flook, occupation an Engineer which would fit with Job Flook's occupation. I have checked all the other Sarah Flook's and there is one born in 1843 with dad Henry who is an engine fitter. Witnesses don't help as they are a William Moore and William Malpowder.
Do you think or would you take a stabb a Job Flook being Joseph??
Any advice/opinions most welcome
Marcelle
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