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Born illigitamate in Medway area? Bought up "in the Family" - mother supposed to have gone to Australia early1900's.
No record of Ernest Brown in 1901 census.

Have you a rough idea of when he was born?
Is Medway in Kent?

Have found this, not sure it helps you though:

Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
Brown Ernest Charles Medway 2a 639

Jan

It seems Gillingham was covered by Medway, so this looks like the above Ernest - not illegitimate though:

1901 England Census

Name: Ernest Chas Brown
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Gillingham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Gillingham St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham

William Brown 48
Frances Brown 46
Florence Emma Brown 15
Fanny Eliza Brown 14
Fredk Jos Brown 12
Stanley Geo Brown 6
Mary Eva Brown 3
Ernest Chas Brown 2

Could this be him as perhaps 'mother' a bit old?

1911 census transcription details for: 2 Backfields Rochester
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3888 RG78PN149 RD47 SD1 ED4 SN333

Reg. District: Medway Sub District: Rochester and Chatham
Parish: Rochester St Margaret Enum. District: 4
Address: 2 Backfields Rochester
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
BROWN, George Head Married M 65 1846 Peer Master Gillingham Kent
BROWN, Fanny Wife Married
44 years F 62 1849 Kent Chatham
BROWN, Ernest Son M 12 1899 School Kent Chatham

This Ernest was born Kent, living as nephew in Surrey:

BROWN ERNEST M 1892 19 Kingston Surrey

Have you got any other info at all?

Hi. If you can say whereabouts in the Medway area he was born, then Medway City Ark is a great searching place for bmds. I'll take a look if you can let us know. Thanks.

PM:

Dad was born as far as I know - 2/12/1897 in the Medway Towns possibly Gillingham Chatham or Rochester. I remember Uncle Dan & Aunt Vi who lived in Snodland and we used to visit them in the 1940's. Thank you for your help.

Hi,

Did your father have a middle name?


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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ernest Edwin Brown
Name: Ernest Edwin Brown
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 0251


EDIT>>>
This is probably a red herring.... there is a Edwin Ernest born in Warwickshire which may fit this death?


Dee x

Elsie - how reliable is that birth date? Where did you get the info?
Jan

This maybe of interest;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>BROWN Daniel John Medway 2a 942
>>>>>>>>>>>Harvey Violet Adelaide Medway 2a 942
VINCER John Thomas Medway 2a 942
WARD Margaret Medway 2a 942


1911 census;

HOUSEHOLD BROWN VIOLET ADELAIDE F 1886 25 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN DANIEL JOHN M 1885 26 Medway Kent Born Rochester
HOUSEHOLD BROWN DOROTHY ANNIE F 1909 2 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN DOUGLAS DANIEL M 1910 1 Medway Kent


No Ernest with them!!!

1901 England Census
about Daniel Brown
Name: Daniel Brown
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England

Civil parish: Rochester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester St Margaret
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester and Chatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 and 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
George Brown 53
Fanny Brown 52
Hallie Brown 20
Daniel Brown 16
Thomas Brown 2 >>>>>>>> Son, Born Chatham

I wonder???


Dee x

1911 free search......... looking for George and Fanny Brown;

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD BROWN ALICE MAUD F 1897 14 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN EMILY MAUD F 1899 12 Medway Kent

HOUSEHOLD BROWN ERNEST M 1899 12 Medway Kent >>>? BORN CHATHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS THIS THOMAS FROM THE 1901 CENSUS!!!!

HOUSEHOLD BROWN FANNY F 1874 37 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN FANNY LOUISE F 1864 47 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN FANNY LOUISE F 1889 22 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN GEORGE M 1846 65 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN GEORGE KENDALL M 1874 37 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN GEORGE STANLEY M 1899 12 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN IRENE FANNY F 1907 4 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN JAMES M 1861 50 Medway Kent
HOUSEHOLD BROWN ROBERT EDWARD M 1903 8 Medway Kent


Last names BROWN
County Kent
District Medway
Other person last names BROWN
Other person first names FANNY



I would like to see this census and see what it states!!


Dee x

All different households

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BROWN, Alice Maud
Address: 71 Gads Hill Gillingham


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BROWN, James Head Married M 50 1861 Skilled Labourer Minster Sheppy VIEW
BROWN, Fanny Louise Wife Married F 47 1864 Labour Sittingbourne Kent VIEW
BROWN, Alice Maud Daughter F 14 1897 Gillingham Kent VIEW
BROWN, Fanny Louise Daughter Single F 22 1889 Sittingbourne Kent VIEW
BROWN, Emily Maud Daughter F 12 1899 Gillingham Kent VIEW

What about this birth, assuming your info is accurate! Quite possible to have been registered January 1888.

Births Mar 1888
BROWN Ernest Albert Medway 2a 590

Jan

Astra,

Could I be cheeky and ask you to do a look up on the 1911 census for the Ernest Brown I found whilst doing a free search on there?

I didn't think that all the other Browns would be with George and Fanny, I just couldn't break it down any further..... no credits left. I used Fanny as a reference so I don't think she would show on the 12 results found, this is the one that interested me;

HOUSEHOLD BROWN FANNY F 1849 62 Medway Kent


Dee xx

It's already been posted Denise.
Barbara posted it yesterday. Third post in.

To Denise From Elsie Joyce. I always assumed Daniel & Violet Brown & family were my relatives and have included them in my tree. I feel like my Dad was like Topsy and just grew! He does not seem to appear before he married my mother - 9/2/1925 in Chatham Kent.

Hi Astra,

Silly me........ a good job you've got your eyes open, think a trip to specsavers is in order for me!!!

So "IF" that was the correct Ernest in 1911 why would he be down as Thomas in 1911?? And I wonder what happened to Hallie (Nellie on image), who was Eleanor in 1891. Could this have been Ernest/Thomas's mother??

Elsie, Does you father name someone as his father on his marriage certificate?

Dee x