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this makes the Prescot district one look even better

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887

BANKS Elizabeth E Much Woolton
ref = MW/17/86

Jane Prescott witness at the wedding has nothing to do with the registration number for Elizabeth Ellen Banks birth. Its just a coincidence

There are 12 Jane Prescott living in Prescot on the 1911 census.

Your witness might/could be a married sister of James Murray. Who was the other witness on the marriage cert.

Have you looked for a Mary Eliza born 1857 Woolton on the 1881 census before she married John Banks

Thanks for the information, will keep me occupied for a bit and I may get results,,,,Thanks

Colin

This is the only John and Mary Eliza marriage beween 1880 and 1890
so a possible
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Banks John W. Derby 8b 763
Caine Mary Eliza W. Derby 8b 763

Thanks Barabara, that makes this birth look very likely

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Banks Elizabeth Ellen Prescot 8b 660


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Prescot is the registration area for Much Woolton

Hi
Just looked at the marriage cert again and have a witness in a Jane Prescott, so the birth cert numbers include a Prescott for her possible maiden name...what do you think...


Colin

No problem Colin. It looks like the first 2 census posts as the area and the name you had in mind for the mother match up

It's just a case of choosing the right cert of out of the 2 that come up. Things are never straight forward are they!!!

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Sorry Ginour post must have crossed on the births...

Hi
They married dec 25th 1909 I know this for sure...

Hi Colin

I posted 2 possible births.

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Hi
This is getting intresting, thanks for this but still need her Birth to get her certificate to find her mothers maiden name...

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
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BANKS Elizabeth Ellen Leigh 8c 273

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Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Banks Elizabeth Ellen Prescot 8b 660

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Take your pick!

Just to confuse things even more.......

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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BANKS Elizabeth Ellen Prescot 8b 1233

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Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
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BANKS Elizabeth Ellen Liverpool 8b 49


Which marriage cert do you have hun?

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also this might be the family
1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Banks
Name: Elizabeth Banks
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Banks 60
John Banks 36
Alice Banks 21
Ellen Banks 17
Robert Banks 13
Elizabeth Banks 10
Annie Banks 8
Maggie Banks 6
Henry Bridge 26

Hang on a minute this ones a carter!

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth E Banks
Name: Elizabeth E Banks
Age: 3/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool Walton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Banks 27
Sarah A Banks 26
Robert T Banks 3
Elizabeth E Banks 3/12


No I think its the first 2 I posted as the age is wrong on this one and the district. If he worked in the Brewery as a labourer it would mean he was pushing carts of beer around..I think

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth E Banks
Name: Elizabeth E Banks
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary E
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Much Woolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Much Woolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Banks 30
Mary E Banks 34
Elizabeth E Banks 3
Annie I Banks 1


1901 England Census
about Elizabeth E Banks
Name: Elizabeth E Banks
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Little Woolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Little Woolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Much Woolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
John Banks 40 >>>>>>>>>>Brewery labourer
Mary Eliza Banks 44
Elizabeth E Banks 13
Annie I Banks 11




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Looking for parents of Elizabeth Ellen Banks b1889 who married James Murray b1890 Liverpool, they married in 1909 in Liverpool , On the marriage cert of these ,her father is John Banks (Carter) Elizabeth was from Much Woolton Liverpool, trying to find her mothers name , I have Mary Eliza ?if I can find the birth of Elizabeth Ellen Banks I can get her birth cert and find her mothers maiden name...an you help ...