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Hello All,
Could someone who has access to shipping records please help me find when James Henry Hayr SIGGS and his brother Jerry Hayr SIGGS arrived in New Zealand from England. I am led to believe that it was sometime in the 1860s.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU.
Patricia.

Is this the correct James and Jerry on the 1851 Census???


1851 Census

Name: James Tiggs
[James Siggs]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Wapeley, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Clifton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Skelton

John Tiggs 52
Mary Ann Tiggs 52
Sophia Tiggs 23
Daniel Tiggs 19
>>>>>James Tiggs 16
Robert Tiggs 14
>>>>>Jerry Tiggs 12
Lepha Tiggs 7
Maria Tiggs 1


all names have already been corrected to Siggs:-
Siggs rather than Liggs
Family research
Submitted by ValerieDenny on 30/10/2007




sylvia

Hi Patricia.
Do you live in NZ if so the archive in Wellington has a lot of shipping records.
Peggy

from a public family tree on ancestry.co.uk


Kellys Genealogy Owner: kellyt711


James Henry Hayr Siggs
Birth
1835 in Wakerley Northampton England
Death


Timeline( View details )
1835
Birth
Wakerley Northampton England
1835
29 MarChristening
Wakerley Northampton England
1841
Age: 6 Residence
Escrick Yorkshire England
Kennel House Escrick Yorkshire
1851
Age: 16 Residence
Clifton Yorkshire England
Townend Street
1863
20 Jul
Age: 28
Marriage to Eliza Hair
Auckland New Zealand

Parents
John Siggs 1798 – 1874
Mary Ann Hayr 1814 – 1874


Spouse & Children

Eliza Hair 1841 – 1924

No children





and


Jerry Hayr Siggs
Birth
1839 in Horseheath Cambridgeshire England
Death
9 Oct 1919 in Taihape New Zealand

Timeline( View details )
1839
Birth
Horseheath Cambridgeshire England
1919
9 Oct
Age: 80
Death
Taihape New Zealand

Parents
John Siggs 1798 – 1874
Mary Ann Hayr 1814 – 1874

Spouse & Children

Pricilla Bayley

No children shown




sylvia

Maria is still in the UK in the 70's with her dad. I cant find a ships record for the boys..but that doesnt mean there is isnt one!





1861 England Census
about Maria H Siggs
Name: Maria H Siggs
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wigginton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Skelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
John Siggs 62
Mary Ann Siggs 47
Maria H Siggs 10
John H Siggs 6






1871 England Census
about Maria Hayes Siggs
Name: Maria Hayes Siggs
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ordsall
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
John Siggs 73
Maria Hayes Siggs 21


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Hi Sylvia,
Yes, that was the correct family in 1851. Only where they have Lepha it should be Letitia.
Thanks for the other info also from another tree.
This info has been most helpful placing the family.
I understand that James and Jerry went to NZ but cannot find what ship or when.
Thanks again.
Regards Patricia.

Hi Peggy,
No I don't live in New Zealand but was hoping someone might have a passenger list for there.
Regards,
Patricia.

Hi Ginny,
Thanks for that info on Maria and her father.
Regards,
Patricia.

Hi Patricia

I've just given up looking for the ships record on Ancestry! Iwonder if someone who has FMP can take a look as it might be easier to find on there?

Sorry I couldnt be more helpful

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Hi Ginny,
Thanks very much for your help.
Regards,
Patricia.

I will keep a note of the names and next time i'm in Wellington at the archives i will have a look for you.

Peggy

Hi Peggy,
Thanks for offering to look up the Siggs when next you are at the Wellington Archives.
Regards,
Patricia.

For your interest

James Henry Hayr SIGGS married Eliza HAIR in 1863 in NZ and Jerry Hayr SIGGS married Priscilla BAYLY in NZ in 1874 so they obviously were not in England for the census after those years.

Regards

Leith

Hi Leith, and welcome to the boards.

Unfortunatley, the last post on this thread was on 22 Nov 2009.
Hopefully Patricia still checks her old threads, but in case she doesn't you can always send the useful information to her by PM (personal message) by clicking on her name.

if she is still using the same email address, and is able to reply, she will be notified that there is a message waiting for her on the site.

Many of us have missed 'last date posted' at some time or other! ;-)

Patricia,
Looking at NZ electoral rolls and Jerry Siggs fist appears on here at 1875... so no help there.

Howewever on a collective ER ranging from 1853-1864 at:
Mangatawire, Auckland there are two men called John ( a Settler) and Robert Siggs ( a Farmer)
Noticeably Robert Siggs in this family appears on the 1851 return but is missing from 1861

Robert Siggs does not appear on any further Electoral Roll nor is there death for him in NZ

Hi Leith,
Just checked my posts. Thanks for replying with info for James and Jerry. I will follow this info up. Thanks again.
Regards,
Patricia.

Hello Anne,
Thanks very much for the info on the rolls. Maybe Robert returned to England or went to OZ. Will have a look and see what I can find. Thanks.
Regards,
Patricia.