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A bit of extra info to add to Fionas 1911 census. States that Ellen had been married 20 years, had given birth to 7 children, 6 living and 1 which had died.
A calender hand, was one who worked on a calender machine that pressed and dried clothes,bedding etc, I think a bit more efficient than the "hand" laundry.........just had a quick read out of curiosity.
Ann
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That was Fiona there that gave you the family names in 1911, so between us we seem to have come up with the goods.
The next thing you want to do is try to identify Alfred's siblings' marriages.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
I'm afraid the names are probably somewhat common and it could be hard to do.
If you identify their births first (likely the year before what it says in the 1911 census), you might find they had middle names that could help. When searching for marriages, use only middle initials, not names.
You will probably enjoy doing that yourself and so I'm not going to do it for you. ;) -- that, and I have some work due tomorrow that I forgot about and I have to get at here!
Give it a try, and you can always come back here for help. Those twins must sleep sometime. ;)
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New message to Janey
Thank you so much for your time - this all seems to fit in with my knowledge so far. I know that Emily and Alfred married on Christmas day. Their eldest son, Reginald (my grandfather) was born 6th May 1923. William was younger and has died. I am interested in Alfred's siblings as my grandfather's memory is not that clear. I know quite a lot about Alfred's wife, but am stuck when it comes to him. Your advice and tips are greatly received. At present I am reliant on the Internet as I have 16 month old twins, which limits my time somewhat! I look forward to getting out there soon! Once again, many thanks for all your help. Kind regards,
From Priscilla
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There is a record on the 1911 census for 3 laburnham grove, high street, Ilford which has names on that look correct.
Can't get the tabbing to work so have taken a cut down version
DRAKE, Ellen Wife 38 No occupation Essex Bursett
DRAKE, Beatrice Daughter Single 18 Calander Hand Laundry West Ham Essex
DRAKE, Herbert Son Single 17 Errand Boy Essex Bullwin Fen
DRAKE, Edith Daughter Single 16 Calander Hand Laundry Essex Navstock
DRAKE, Alfred Son 13 School Essex Billiricky
DRAKE, William Son 11 School Essex Schilditch
DRAKE, Arthur Son 10 School Essex Barkingside
No idea what a Calander Hand Laundry is, but if you have a birth certificate for Alfred this should tell you if his mother was Ellen and let you know if this is the correct family
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for ref:
Marriages Dec 1921
Drake Alfred G Galley Romford 4a 1068
Galley Emily Drake Romford 4a 1068
There's only one birth to the marriage:
William C Drake Oct Nov Dec 1925 W Ham
Is it just Alfred you're looking for info about, or the other brothers/sisters?
Canadian info won't be available, unfortunately. The last available census is 1911 (1916 for western Canada); births aren't available for the last 100 years, and generally marriages for 75 years or so, and deaths for shorter periods depending on province. Several provinces have searchable databases on line, but there is no central registry of BMDs for the country.
If you want to trace the son William -- unfortunately, 1940-1960, there are several marriages for William C Drake in the London area. There's one specifically in Romford in 1940.
William seems to have died, unfortunately. The death certificate could contain a family member's name:
Name: William Charles Drake
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1925
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1997
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Hitchin and Stevenage
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Register number: 3A
District and Subdistrict: 5341A
Entry number: 206
I also always recommend that with the specific date and place of death on the death certificate, people look for a published obituary in newspaper archives at the library local to the death, which would likely list children and grandchildren, in my experience. I don't think many people actually try that.
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Desperately trying to find info on Alfred Drake, b.1899, who married Emily Galley of Barkingside. I know he had brothers Bill and Bert and at least one other plus 2 sisters. He went to Canada for a short while to do logging with his brothers. One stayed there. Would love to know more so that I can tell my grandfather. Thank you, Priscilla Westcott
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