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1881 census image:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008176680.pdf

1891 census image for George:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148145-00663.pdf
NB George (and his daughter Annie) are Mary Ann Lowe's lodgers. She (MAL) appears to be 6 y older, so I think George has raised his age by 3 y.

You can search more censuses using the links at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html

Just because there were children, don't assume that the parents were married.........

The fact that they emigrated in 1870 may have forced their hand

T in Middlesex,

Thankyou so much for all the information. I am very greatful.

Jo

I also have a great grandfather who claimed to be a batchelor on his 3rd marriage!!

Don't take it that a marriage had to be round when the 1st child was born

My Nan was the youngest of 3 the eldest was born in 1896 & her parents marriage in 1914

The following children were Joseph's and Sarah children

Catherine - about 1868
Joseph - June 2, 1863
Thomas - 1965

And there is a huge debat on whether or not my great grandfather was born there or not. John Edward Belcher born December 12, 1874. If he was born there then I have the date wrong on when they came to America.

What I think is that it was Joseph's 2nd marriage as there are children born before 1870..


Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924

Name: George Belcher
Birth Place: England
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Father Name: Joseph Belcher
Mother Name: Sarah Pierce
Spouse Name: Mary Anne Lowe
Spouse's Age: 47
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Birth Place: Wales
Spouse Father Name: William Baker
Spouse Mother Name: Emma James
Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1916
Marriage Place: Hastings
Marriage County: Hastings
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_383

Edit: Ahh.. Double checked the marriage of Joseph and Sarah in 1870.. Both was listed as single .. Hmm

Hmm.. Not so sure unless it is them.. If so, Sarah was listed as Married (maybe she didnt want to say Widowed?)


1881 Census of Canada

Name: Sarah Belcher
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 40
Birth Year: 1841
Birthplace: England
religion: Methodist Church of Canada
Nationality: ENGLISH
Province: Ontario
District Number: 121
District: Hastings West
Sub-District Number: C
Subdistrict: Belleville
Division: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Belcher 40
George Belcher 22
Joseph Belcher 17
Thomas Belcher 15
Catherine Belcher 13
John Belcher 7

These the guys?


1871 Census of Canada

Name: Sarah Belcher
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1836
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
religion: Ch England
Origin: English
Province: Ontario
District: Hastings West
District Number: 60
Division: 04
Subdistrict: Belleville
Subdistrict Number: c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Belcher 40
Sarah Belcher 35
George Belcher 12
Joseph Belcher 8
Thomas Belcher 5
Catharine Belcher 3
James Belcher 4m Ontario, Canada

All others born England

Do you know how old Joseph was when he died?

I haven't found George born 1859 with parents Joseph and Sarah.

Christine

I think the 1870 marriage might be wrong.

They have a son that was born in 1859. So the marriage had to be around then. Their 1st son born was George Belcher born Nov. 9, 1859.

Thankyou Vera,

I will note this one down.

Found this one ???

Births Sep 1845 (>99%)
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BELCHER Joseph Henry St Saviour 4 501


Also found the family but no father on the 1851 tried the 1841 still no father...


Regards Vera

Regards Vera

Thats ok Vera, i dont know if right either lol. With not much to go on its hard to see what is right really isnt it.

Sorry Jo lo...I deleted it...because I wasn't sure if it was right.....if you want that info will put it back...I also am trying to find a birth...

Regards Vera

Hi Vera,

I only have the information that i have added here so far im afraid, so dont know anything more.
Im just wondering about the marriage, so they wasnt married long before Joseph died. Trying to find a birth for him at the moment.

Vera's reply has now gone!!! lol as just about to copy the info.

Thankyou for finding the marriage Ozibird andthankyou hoping for finding them on census.

This is the banns:

Name: Joseph Belcher
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Sarah Pierce
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Mar 1870
Parish: Saint Paul, Deptford
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: William Belcher

Sarahs father is given as james pierce, labourer. And william belcher is given as a smith(y)?. Should help narrow it down for census records, births etc.

Regards Linda :)

Marriages Mar 1870
Belcher Joseph Greenwich 1d 767
Pierce Sarah Greenwich 1d 767
Snook Charlotte Mary A Greenwich 1d 767

I am researching my friends family and looking to find anything on a Sarah Pierce and Joseph Belcher. They left Liverpool, England in 1870. But I have not been able to find their parents any where I look. They went from Liverpool, England to the Port of Quebec, Canada. Joseph died in Canada in 1871, and Sarah died in New York , unknown when, but it was the early 1900's. I do know that they were married In england though.

Thankyou