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1901 census Nottingham/ Glos

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Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 21:28

Looking for g.grandfather if anyone can help ?
Edmund Betts born 1860 in Nottingham is with his parents on 1881 census.He marries in 1882
In 1891 his wife Maria Betts is in Bedminster in Bristol with her first 2 children at 2 Clarence Square with her as head.
Can anyone help/suggest where Edmund(Edward) Betts is ?

Thanks
Sue

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Oct 2009 21:36

Can you post the details for Maria in 1891

Not even found Edmund in 1881 - there are two in 1871 census

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 21:42

Just know the addy was 2 clarence square bedminster..........think thats actually Bristol.
Name Maria Betts age 25 Head
Daughter DAisy age 7
Son Thomas age 4

Is that what you wanted glitter baby ?

Sue

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Oct 2009 21:49

1891............you didn't say she was just down as 'M'

Name: Daisy Betts
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: M
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
M Betts 26
Daisy Betts 7
Thomas Betts 4

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Oct 2009 21:49


FindMyPast - The new findmypast.com Print this page Close Window
1891 census transcription details for: 2, Clarence Square, Bedminster, Bristol
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1948 Folio: 76 Page: 19

Reg. District: Bedminster Sub District: Bedminster
Parish: Bedminster Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District: St Lukes City/Municipal Borough: Bristol
Address: 2, Clarence Square, Bedminster, Bristol
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
BETTS M Head Married F 26 1865
Derbyshire
BETTS, Daisy Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Nottinghamshire
BETTS, Thomas Son M 4 1887
Nottinghamshire

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Oct 2009 21:57

What were the names of his parents?

I can't see him in 1881...........perhaps you could give us the full details.......

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Oct 2009 22:04

Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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BETTS Edmund Nottingham 7b 223

Deaths Jun 1929 (95%)
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Betts Edmund 69 Nottingham 7b 327


Do you have the marriage cert?

The only marriage is in 1885 in Gainsborough district - and there's an Edmund Betts born in Gainsborough in 1858, who would seem much more likely to be the one who married there

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 22:05

Didn't know she was down as M sorry. Received the info from a relative.
She was actually Anne Maria Green born in Belper Derbyshire
She married Edmund(Edward) Betts in 1882
In 1881 census he is with parents at 17 woburn st, nottingham
Parents were William and Harriet Betts

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Oct 2009 22:07

oh bother so not this one in 1871 then

Name: Edmond Betts
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmond
Mother's Name: Deborah
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 300
Household Members: Name Age
Edmond Betts 30
Deborah Betts 27
Edmond Betts 9
Charles Betts 4
William Bown 13



Findmypast does list two for 1871 in Nottingham

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Oct 2009 22:08

This one?

Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
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BETTS Edward Nottingham 7b 526
Chapman Jane Elizabeth Nottingham 7b 526
GREEN Annie Nottingham 7b 526
SMITH John Nottingham 7b 526

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Oct 2009 22:09

1881 just for info

Name: Edward Betts
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 17 Woburn St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Betts 55
Harriet Betts 55
Edward Betts 19
Rebecca Betts 16



So looking for Edward and not Edmund

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Oct 2009 22:13

1901 ?
Name: Edward Betts
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Betts 39
Annie Betts 35
May D Betts 18 - is this Daisy
Thomas A Betts 14
Olive Betts 7
Gertrude Betts 4
Thomas Green 68 father-in-law
Mria Green 59 mother-in-law

Edward is a bricklayers labourer which is not much help with 1891

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Oct 2009 22:17

Think he is in Wales in 1891 - off to have a check on image



FMP has this info, using Nottingham for place of birth, but not yet found it on Ancestry
BETTS, Edward 1861 30 M Monmouth Monmouthshire

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Oct 2009 22:20

1861

Name: Edmund Betts
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Betts 34
Edmund Betts 18
William Betts 9
Charles Betts 6
Samuel Betts 4
Edmund Betts 10 Mo
Emelia Betts 16

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 22:21

Thank you the 1901 census seems to be the right family and they are back in Nottingham. All the children names are correct
He seems to switch beteween Edward/Edmund
She seems to use Annie,Anne Maria/Maria

They married at St Matthias church in Nottingham - again info from a relative so I can't confirm with actual cert.

Its just ttracing him for 1891 census that is proving difficult

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 22:27

1861 details.......also correct family
Thank you

Father William missing as he appears on the staff of the local asylum

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2009 22:55

Thanks glitterbaby
Looks promising
Right age and town of birth
Bristol isn't that far from Bristol so maybe he was off working

Any luck ?