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1891 & 1901 Census Look-ups please for Thomas Northern (born about 1836 in Kettering,Northamptonshire) & wife Harriett ( born 1841/ 1848 in Weedon, Northamptonshire)...married 1866 in Kettering.

1881 census has them in Northampton with children William,(John) Thomas,John George & Sarah Ann.

Many thanks !

For info:-

1881 census transcription details for: 1, 8, House Court, Northampton St Sepulchre
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1547 Folio: 11 Page: 15

Reg. District: Northampton Sub District: St Giles
Parish: Northampton St Sepulchre Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, 8, House Court, Northampton St Sepulchre
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
NORTHERN, Thomas Head Married M 43 1838 Shoe Maker
Kettering
Northamptonshire
NORTHERN, Harriett Wife Married F 40 1841
Weedon
Northamptonshire
NORTHERN, William Son Single M 15 1866 Errand Boy
Kettering
Northamptonshire
NORTHERN, Thomas Son Single M 13 1868
Northampton
Northamptonshire
NORTHERN, John Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Northampton
Northamptonshire
NORTHERN, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 4 1877
Northampton
Northamptonshire

When were the children born? Can't find them on the 1891 - children's DOBs and POBs might help.

Edit - thanks Barbra!

1891

Thomas Northern
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: St Sepulchre
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Tee 44
William Tee 24
Thomas Tee 22
John Tee 20
Sarah A Tee 14
Thomas Northern 46

The only thing is though this one is down as Single...but occupation matches the 1881

Seems this is the same family & Harriet is down as Tee & single too

1901 England Census
about Thomas Northern
Name: Thomas Northern
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: Northampton Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Harris 46
Amy Harris 36
John Harris 6
James Harris 4
Thomas Harris 11 months
Henry Neal 79
William Adams 73
Samuel Hickman 68
Joseph Rose 75
Thomas Clarke 67
Henry Irons 62
George Hull 75
William Owen 77
Edward Venables 80
Joseph Brooks 82
John Bradshaw 70
William Cox 76
David Dent 85
John Smith 77
Edwin Westley 69
Thomas Seabridge 74
Block Edgar 54
Nathaniel Bryan 67
Thomas Judge 78
Enea Pinkard 71
Robert Garns 68
John Hall 63
George Cheese 83
John Draper 68
William Spriggs 79
Samuel Salom 74
George Bulbrook 78
Thomas Walker 54
Charles Judd 68
Frederick Seales 70
Thomas Bergin 64
Thomas Partridge 77
Henry Palmer 86
John Miles 75
Thomas Northern 67
Isaac Smith 77
Septimus Barrett 72
William Mason 68
George Walker 40
John Laughton 60
Stephen Barber 68
Daniel Griffiths 73
Albert Linnell 44
John Goodall 70
Henry Wyatt 68
George Stratton 67
Thomas Leach 79
Isaac Robley 77
Henry Reeves 64
James Gray 68
Edward Barnard 47

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hi found this one
1901 census

Address Wellingborough Road Northampton
Civil Parish
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish
Parliamentary Borough or Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Northampton
Householder 1
Name Thomas Northern
Relation to Head of Family
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 67
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Boot Maker
Employment Status
Where Born Kettering Northampton
Language
Infirmity

Looks like they did marry but could have separated thus single?

Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
Braines Harriet Kettering 3b 199
NORTHERN Thomas Kettering 3b 199

Oh dear as something isn't adding up

Thomas Northern
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kettering
County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 199 (click to see other
Spouse. .Harriett Braines

Sarah's birth

Sarah Ann Northern
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Northampton (1837-1923)
County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 62 (click to see others

1901 census transcription details for: 57, Scarletwell Street, Northampton St Sepulchre
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1425 Folio: 131 Page: 5

Reg. District: Northampton Sub District: St Giles
Parish: Northampton St Sepulchre Enum. District: 49
Ecclesiastical District: St Katherine City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 57, Scarletwell Street, Northampton St Sepulchre
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
TEE, Harriett Head Widow F 66 1835
Weldon
Northamptonshire
WILSON, Sarah A Daughter Married F 25 1876
Northampton
TEE, John G Son Single M 26 1875 Finisher In Shoe Trade
Northampton
WILSON, Florence Grand Daughter F 4 1897
Northampton
WILSON, Edward R Grand Son M 3 1898
Northampton


1911 census transcription details for: 19 Little Cross St Northampton
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN8426 RG78PN434 RD163 SD2 ED4 SN410

Reg. District: Northampton Sub District: All Saints
Parish: Northampton Enum. District: 4
Address: 19 Little Cross St Northampton
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
TEE, Harriet Wife Widow F 68 1843 Weldon Northants
TEE, John Son Single M 38 1873 Shoe Finisher Northampton


EDIT: on the image it has crossed out - 4 children born alive, 3 children still living.

Deaths Mar 1910
NORTHERN Thomas. 73 Northampton 3b 44

Deaths Jun 1915
Tee Harriet 73 Northampton 3b 90

Oppsy...more confusion

Sarah Ann Tee
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Northampton (1837-1923)
County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 223 (click to see others o

Spouse....Edward Robert Wilson

Thanks for everybody's help with this somewhat baffling family !

As far as i know Thomas died in Northampton in 1910,so Harriett would have been a widow in 1911...but as for the name / age variations....???

Roy

Probably a good idea to send off for the death certificate and see who registered it.

Ages can change......but names im puzzled

OK....we might be getting somewhere

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
Tee William Northen Kettering 3b 155


William was born before they were married that's why he is a Tee.....i thing either that marriage is wrong or she told porkies about her surname

I think her maiden name was Tee

Hello again

Unfortunately i am posting this for a friend, so i can't add anything.

I think it best if i get in touch with him & let him know about the confusion.

Many thanks again for everybody's time + effort !

Hi Roy

I have updated my last post

I really think your friend will be best to get some certs to sort this out......who are they a descendant from