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Louisa Whittaker
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 DEC 1877 Oldham, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Whittaker Thorpe Whittaker
Mother: Sarah Whittaker


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009417 Film


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June x

awww Maureen we can share the chocs lol



June x

The only one I can cross off Dea's list is the last one-James Thomas WHITTAKER is the son of:
Marriages Jun 1876
Lord Martha Ann Oldham 8d 925
WHITTAKER James William Oldham 8d 925
(as per 1881 census).

Maureen

June just wants your chocs,Simon!!!
(grin)

Maureen

Hi June,

Yep we have that already i am afraid thats what started all the issues with her not been a Donley but she is Frances sister in law on the 1901 census.

Thank you for helping on this it is quite a thread now.

Kind regards Simon x

could this be the marriage of Eda ?


Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Reid William Joseph Sheffield 9c 590
Whittaker Edith Sheffield 9c 590



June x

The 3 boxes are on order!

Speak soon.

Simon x

Hi Simon,

3 boxes for me please (virtual, of course,) - I have been very poorly and need to put on weight!!

Dea x

P.S. - I will look again in the morning!

Dea x

Hi Everyone,

sorry i went missing for a while, this all seems to be adding up, all the Whittaker birtsh are in th1870's and the Donley births ar 1880's and Sarah was older when she arrived with John Donley on the 1881 register so could have been maried before or had the kids out of wed lock before John came on the seen.

I can't help but say thank you all so far, i just know like me you can't leave this one alone!!

BIG thank you, how many boxes of Chocs so far!

Simon xx

Don't be disheartened Sal,

Your input 'could' have been the breakthrough!!

Every little bit helps, even if you can't follow it through because of lack of access, it could help us 'crack' the case!

Keep up the good work.

Dea x

Hi,

Unfortunately without access bit stuck couldn't tell if she was married or not.

Oh well back to the drawing board.

:-}

Good Luck.

Sal

I don't know whether it will help or confuse and I am going off-line very soon but I have found a few other Whittaker/Lord births:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER Mary Alice Oldham Above Town Oldham LORD OAT/74/150



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER Eda Oldham Below Town Oldham LORD OBT/102/451



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER Louisa Oldham Below Town Oldham LORD OBT/114/315



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER James Thomas Oldham Above Town Oldham LORD OAT/86/291

Hope someone will be able to connect them?

Dea x

Sal.
That Sarah LORD seems pretty settled with a husband and children,so I think we'll leave her alone...grin.

Maureen

Hurrah for Dea!!!!

That one won't likely help,but at least we'll have some clue as to which Whittaker she might (or might not have) married.

Good luck,Simon!

Maureen

Hi,

I do not have access to the 1891 census but have done a basic search and can't look at the results.

I have found a Sarah Lord born 1850 living in Todmorden Yorkshire (West Riding) for my search I put born in Bacup.

If anyone could check to see please.

Sal

Hi,

I have worked on this on and off all day and got nowhere too!

However, from the info that Maureen has posted I have found the following info on Lancs Bmd which looks very promising:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER Eda Oldham Below Town Oldham LORD OBT/102/451


Total records matching : 1 .

Dea x

Hi maureen.

I will order the cert, i seem to remember my mother saying that Sarah had been married before!! that would account for the Whittaker or was she born out of wed lock to a boyfriend, my mum said an american!!.

I do think it is Eda that is sister to Frances as the rest fits when living in Sheffield.

And Frances showing as sister in law to william and eda reid.

Yes i never thought of Cad been Eda, and i spen hours on that.

I will order that cert and see, thank you so much for your help, is this a case of you need to find out as much as me because you have done so much work.

If you think of anything else please let me know.

BIG THANK YOU.

Simon x

Hi Simon,
I worked on this for hours this morning and got nowhere.

Just a couple of points-there's no such person as Cad. That's just Eda.
This is possibly her birth:
Name: Eda Whittaker
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 618

IF (and it's a big IF) that's her ,I wonder if the certificate might shed a little more light on Sarah?

I don't see any likely marriages-LORD, WHITTAKER, DON*LEY,etc.

Sorry!

Maureen

HELP PLEASE.

Ok i have Frances mum as Sarah Donley nee lord born Oldham 1851/2 in 1881 she is living with John Donley in Manchester and a Cad born 1873.

In 1891 John Donley is in sheffield with Eda born 1874 and other daughters including FRANCES. BUT NO Sarah!

In 1901 Eda marries next door William Reid but shows as nee Whittaker not Donley

And John and Sarah are back together.

I am wondering if Sarah was married some time in 1872/3 and had Cad and Eda and then married John Donley later and had The rest as the next child is 1883 a 10 year gap.

IF SOME ONE HAS THE TIME TO PRINT ALL THIS THREAD AND SEND THE TIME TO WORK OUT THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

All info is on the thread, i just can't work it out!!

I have tried but am new to all this, i would be happy to forward helpers a box of Chocs, please help i am in a real mess with this one.

Kind regards Simon.

Hi to you All.

I have the birth cert for Frances Donley her mother sarah's maiden name was Lord born Bacup 1850/51, i cant find sarah's parents or her marriage to John Donley who was born 1852, please see early messages on this thread.

Any help in locating Sarah in early years or her parents and marriage to John Donley would really help.

Regards Simon.