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Got marriage cert for Thomas Harvey age 19 and Emma Elizabeth Casley age 18 married in East Ham in 1893. Living at 103 Beaconsfield Street.

Thomas's dad, Thomas Harvey is deceased a Labourer and Emma's dad is John Casley, cant read proffesion for him.

I cant find them on 1901 and 1891 census.
Can anyone help please?

Thankyou

Joanne

Hi Joanne
Does John Casley's profession read Lighterman?? If so I have found family in 1891 census living in Poplar, London.

Jules ..

Jules,

Yes it does read Lighterman, had to scan and zoom in to read it.

Jonesey,

Thankyou for the census info. I now remember the name Jno, is this short for Johnathon/Jonathon?

Can i just ask please that no posts get deleted with information on as i have to write all down. Sorry to be a cheeky :) but it has happened before.

Thankyou

My Ancestry sub has lapsed so can't post info but I can see John, Elizabeth and family in the 1901 Under the name of:-

John R Casley c1843 Middlesex , he's still in the London area, i'm sure someone will check it out and post the info for you.

Carrie :)

here's the 1901 census for the Casleys

1901 England Census
Name: John R Casley
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Feltham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
John R Casley 58
Elizabeth Casley 48
James Casley 21
Henry Casley 18
Mary Ann Casley 16
Frank Casley 12
Elizabeth Casley 5




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 354; Folio: 158; Page: 14.

1881?
Name: Thomas Harvey
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Virginia
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 191 St Leonards St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Laborer In Docks
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Harvey 40
Virginia Harvey 36
William Harvey 13
Thomas Harvey 7
Kate Harvey 4
John Harvey 2
Henry Foreman 41
Edward Harvey 38
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 494; Folio: 34; Page: 10;

1891 Ancestry 103 BEACONSFIELD!!!!
Name: Thomas Harvey
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Occupation:Laborer
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Salmen 40
Virginia Salmen 40
Hephzebah Salmen 16
John Salmen 11
Thomas Salmen 9
Thomas Harvey 17
Kate Harvey 14
Sarah Harvey 11
John Harvey 11
Richard Harvey 9
Anne Harvey 16

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1341; Folio 117; Page 44

Maureen

EDIT: DOH! Just realized that the Harvey kids are living with their re-married mother in 1891!

Possible birth for Emma

Births Jun 1876
CHEASLEY Emma Elizabeth Poplar 1c 739

Emma's family in 1881?

Jno. CASLEY Head M Male 38 Feltham Lighterman
Eliz. CASLEY Wife M Female 28 Norfolk, England
Jno. CASLEY Son Male 11 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
Sarah CASLEY Daur Female 9 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
Emma CASLEY Daur Female 6 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
James CASLEY Son Male 1 Norfolk, England
Dwelling 10 Court Russell St

Thankyou everyone for your help. I have noted it all down.

Now i am being cheeky but if Thomas's wife remarried because Thomas passed away, i so far cant find a death for him, anyone help please?

Thankyou

Joanne

Marriages Dec 1868
CASLEY John Mile End 1c 1104
Fullbrook Mary Ann Mile End 1c 1104
O'Neil Henry Constantine Mile End 1c 1104
Savage Elizabeth Mile End 1c 1104

Thankyou Selena very much.

Virginia Harvey married Arthur Salmon 1890 mar qt West Ham gro ref vol 4a page 40

Thankyou Quinsgran very much.

Can anyone help me please find Thomas's dad death, im not having any luck.

Joanne

I found 3 which i think 1 may be for Thomas, not sure though.

Thomas Harvey 2nd qtr 1890 in West Ham age 36 4a 35

Thomas Harvey 4th qtr 1890 in Poplar age 38 1e 472

Thomas Harvey 3rd 1889 West Ham age 38 4A 75

So far-none of the above...
If Virginia re-marries when we think she does then the first 2 are out and the 3rd (as well as the first two) seem to be too young.
Forget if I posted this :
Name: Thomas Hardey (sic)
Age: Full Age

Spouse Name: Virginia Foreman
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Jun 1867
Parish: Saint Mary, Bromley Saint Leonard
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Robert Hardey Occ: Lab
Spouse Father Name: Occ:George Foreman

AND on the 1871-would someone take a look at this bunch on Ancestry:
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Bates 23
Eliza Bates 20
Johnas Bates 24

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 570; Folio: 29; Page: 13

I think that's Thomas with a sister?? followed by Virginia and William:
Household Members:
Name Age
Vincenc Hatney 23
Wiliam Haddy 3

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 570; Folio: 29; Page: 13;

Maureen

Maureen,

Thankyou for looking for info. I did see some more Thomas Harvey deaths but the 3 i posted seemed to me better as the areas but now yes too young. Im stuck on that for now.

Bump for anyone who can look up on Ancestry what Maureen has mentioned here please.

Thankyou Karen for looking for me.

Joanne