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Hey guys

Tracey did not die in Australia, she died in old trafford i have the index now, I didn't get it coz she was on the imigration index but they got their papars to go live there and then unfortunatley Tracey got knocked down by a reversing milkfloat and died in the ambulance.

Hey Janey you haven't crossed wires with Fred, it was my nans details he sent me

Thank you both Sarah

Good, thanks! I am a stickler for that, of course -- just that the "LP" went over my head. ;)

I should note that I mentioned on the previous page that I have done a lot of tracking for Sarah to find living relations (info that was provided by PM), and hope we aren't covering the same ground.

LP Living Person. Up to date personal details and address which are private and not for others to see, am only following rules issued by "Genes" F.

Frederick, would you mind elaborating a tad for the rest of us? :)

"(LP)"?

(If it isn't personal info about living people or otherwise sensitive, it doesn't need to be PMed, and adding it here lets us know what's been found.)

Hi Sarah, have pmd you (LP) F.

As I understand this, she died in Sydney around 1968-9?

Her death should be in the database on line for NSW, which is searchable up to 1978

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

(births and deaths are on the same search form)

but I don't see any death for Stonelake. Perhaps they settled in another part of Australia?

Richard had a daughter named Tracey Stonelake born around13/04/1964, They went to Sydney Australia around her 4th Birthday where they remained for 7 years.

Tracey died age 4 1/2, she got ran over by a milk float.

Does anyone have any idea how i will find her death index

Thank you Sarah

Are you interested in tracing the families of Richard's brother and sisters? They are the other children of David Stonelake and Emily Rowley, and their families might know some family history -- and would of course be the families of your parent's cousins.

We can find their marriages in the index at Ancestry probably, and look for children of those marriages. That info would have to be sent privately since it relates to possibly living people.

PMed info about Edna's marriage and kids and will wait to hear whether you have that info already, as you may have.

-- done for the three siblings: marriages and children's births.

One sister did have to marry a Smith ... and not give any of her children middle names ... !!

I've found everything every1 has sent me through this blog now

Thank you all so much you've been a great help.

The only thing I'm trying to do now is find the death index for my great-grandparents, David and Emily.

I have no idea when they died and there's no-one left to tell me. All the info I have is they both lived in Gorton, Manchester when they died, Emily died quite young (in her 40's i think) and David died of Asian Flu,

trying all search engines and really struggling at the mo : (
Thanks for all the help though, wouldn't have got this far if it wasn't for every1's help

Siblings of Richard - I thought they'd been added here but I guess not.


Births Jun 1920
Stonelake Edna M Rowley Merthyr T. 11a 1939

Births Jun 1921
Stonelake David W Rowley Chorlton 8c 1503

Births Mar 1924
Stonelake Richard J Rowley Merthyr T. 11a 1562

Births Sep 1926
Stonelake Iris Rowley Bedwellty 11a 230

Related thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1181786

Sarah, are you reading the info given you?

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Hi Sarah

Here they are coming to Australia in April 1969

STONELAKE Richard John born 8 December 1923; Stella (nee Hewitt, Murphy) born 25 May 1928; MURPHY Terence born 1950; MURPHY Pamela Stella born 1955; Diane born 1962; Tracy born 1964; travelled per aircraft departing UK on 4 April 1969 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme

According to this Tracy came to Australia with them, aged about 4. So maybe she died here? Stella was nee HEWITT, married Richard as MURPHY so it must have been her 2nd marriage, as she had at least 2 children with surname MURPHY. I'm assuming Diane is your mum so I'm hoping it is not a shock to find out she has a half-brother and half-sister! But I guess they were brought up together so probably not...

You can request a copy as they were assisted immigrants, from http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

This looks like Stella's birth:

Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
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Hewitt Stella Campbell Manchester S. 8d 343

Her parents marriage (after she was born?)

Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
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Campbell Mary Hewitt Manchester S. 8d 290
Hewitt George Campbell Manchester S. 8d 290

Hezekiah Stonlake
Age in 1901: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Pontlottyn, Glamorgan, Wales

Margaret Stonlake
Age in 1901: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Hezekiah
Gender: Female
Where born: New Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales

1901

David W Stonlake
Age in 1901: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Hezekiah
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: New Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: New Tredegar St Dingat
Town: New Tredegar
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
Hezekiah Stonlake 27
Margaret Stonlake 24
David W Stonlake 4
Edith M Stoulake 12 months

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Stonelake David William Bedwelty 11a 103

The district Bedwelty is in the county of Monmouthshire; Wales


Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
Rowley Emily Mary Louth 7a 633
Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
Rowley Emily Muriel Thetford 4b 391
Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
Rowley Emily Minnie Ware 3a 468
Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Rowley Emily Mary Islington 1b 377

this is the only Stonelake and Rowley marriage that comes up, maybe your grt grandparents

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)

Rowley Emily M Stonelake Wandsworth 1d 1721 Scan available - click to view
Stonelake David W Rowley Wandsworth 1d 1721 Scan available - click to view

sister?

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Stonelake Edna M Rowley Merthyr T. 11a 1939

Is this your grandads death index ?

Name: Richard John Stonelake
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1923
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1999
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: E70B
District and Subdistrict: 0061E
Entry number: 232

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And Birth index

Name: Richard J Stonelake
Mother's Maiden Surname: Rowley
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1924
Registration district: Merthyr T
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1562
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To get his parents names you need to send for his Birth Certificate

Certs are £7 each from

www.gro.gov.uk

All the best
Barbara

Is this the marriage ?

Name: Stella Murphy
Spouse Surname: Stonelake
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Registration district: Manchester
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 10e
Page Number: 795
Find Spouse: Richard J Stonelake