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David Spence

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Aspen

Aspen Report 21 Sep 2009 11:41

I found Alexander on 1901 townland of Beltony. I also have a copy of house and buildings return for Beltony in 1901. There are 2 Spence families, Alexander Sn. and John his son. He was married to Susanna McCool, they had 6 children by then, Isabella, Alexander, William, Susan, Mary J, and John. Then going on to have Eliza, Thomas and James. One died and I think it was james.

Alexander Sn. and Mary Jane had 11 children.......
David, Elizabeth, Thomas, Alexander,John, Mary Jane, William,James, Elenor, Anne and Henry. All name seem to repeat in every family!
I got Alexander's sons Thomas and James in 1911, Drumineny but I should have had them in 1901 as James was married 22 and Thomas 26 in 1911.
Lets hope the 1901 census will come on line soon!
Regards
Alison

Aspen

Aspen Report 20 Sep 2009 20:52

Yes, he was the son of Mary Jane and Alexander. He was on the census 1901 age 40, but he should have been 44. A strange age to emigrate. I thought it was only women who took a few years of their age.
Regards Alison

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 20:36

Alison....You are right there...he is difficult to locate....What Census did you find Alex.(b1856) in 1901 and was he a son of Alex snr and Mary Hamilton..?

Aspen

Aspen Report 20 Sep 2009 20:20

Hello
You have my Grandfather Henry, 27/7/1873. Fanny 14/3/1869 may have been registered wrong, maybe they forgot what the name was, as I did not find her on the baptisms in Raphoe, but I did get Elenor 13/3/1869. That is how it was spelt and then in the records for Carnowen school. She had Ellen on her marriage cert and married Culbert Hamill 1893 and moved to Scotland.The other male Spence may have been James, I have 17/8/1866 not 20th.. I was very lucky to find all the baptisms. I can follow pretty well after that, apart for Alexander born 24/09/1856 He was on the 1901 census, not married and living with his parents, but not on the 1911. It has been said that he emigrated to Australia or New Zealand. Money was suposed to have come back to Ireland after he died. I would just like a date of death and place to add to my tree, but it is proving difficult.
Regards
Alison

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 20:01

Alison ....

From Diocese of Raphoe Wills Index
Spence, John; ; 1708.

Certainly the "Spence" Family were there in early 1700's may not be your particular branch of the family but again worth holding onto....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 19:40

Alison...Have just been having alook back and realise I misread some info.re Alex.(son of David)..I thought he was Born 1849 from what you had found from St.Eunans Reg. but realise now that was the date of his marriage to Mary Jane Hamilton...therefore the Alex.in Milltown (1857) Griffiths Valuation may well be him....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 19:33

Alison...Just for ref. as I dont know if you have these....

Parents Alex. Spence and Mary Jane Hamilton..

1. Henry Spence - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 JUN 1873 , Donegal, Ireland

2. SPENSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 14 JUL 1864 0356, Raphoe, Donegal, Ireland

3. SPENCE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 AUG 1866 0358, Raphoe, Donegal, Ireland

4. FANNY SPENCE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 MAR 1869 , Donegal, Ireland


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 10:41

Alison....
Castlefinn is a Townland in the Barony of Raphoe and Civil Parish of Donaghmore

Aspen

Aspen Report 20 Sep 2009 09:45

Good morning
I have on this death cert of Elizabeth as
Superintendent Rigistrar's District, STRABANE Registrar's District CASTLEFIN
1883 Dearhs Registered in the District of Castlefinn in the Union of Strabane in the County if Donegal
Elizabeth died 1st. September 1883 age 75 years.
I usually keep anything I get as it might come in useful later.
I did think that David could have come from Drumstevlin. I should check out what Church of Ireland Churches are in and around the area to see if they keep the records there. I was very lucky with Raphoe as all was there.
I look forward to your reply.
Kind Regards
Alison

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 09:10

Alison...:

These are some Spences' in Drumstevlin 1821...May be worth keeping hold of...

Fron C.of Ireland Census.





SPENCE. Jacob [46] Isobel [45] John [22] Elizabeth [19] George [16] Jacob [13] James [10]

SPENCE. John [32] Jane Wilson [30] Married 23/3/1819 Dorothy [1 ½] William [22]

SPENCE. David [43] Mary [38] Catherine [15] John [11] Susan [6]

SPENCE. James [41] Jane [38] William [16] Sarah [10] Andrew [7] James [4] Mary [1 ½]

Also present in household John, Sam, and Lizzie Spence great-grandparents

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 08:58

Alison...

Could this be John and his family ...

Drumstevlin.. Killymard 1901

SPENCE John and Eliza, John, Lizzie, Samuel.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 20 Sep 2009 08:48

Alison...
For Ref:

Milltown is a Townland in the Barony and Civil Parish of Raphoe ...Poor Law Union of Strabane.
There is a "Holmes" Townland in the Barony of Banagh. Civil Parish of Killymard. Poor Law Union of Donegal so if it was Holmes then the Reg.would be in Killymard.
The only "Holmestown" is in the Co.Wexford.

Aspen

Aspen Report 19 Sep 2009 17:41

I found that Alexander was married in 1849 to Mary Jane Hamilton. They were Church of Ireland, St Eunan's Cathedral Raphoe. I think he may have been born around 1828 as full age is given on the marriage cert, of course he could have been born a number of years before that. If David and Elizabeth who was in Braehead Raphoe and had Mary 1838 and then moved to Milltown and had Jane in 1840. I noted that Frances (Fanny) Spence was full age when she married 1856 so she could have been born 1835. When David came to Raphoe he had a son Alexander aged 10 or older and a daughter aged approx. 3. If Alexander was born in the late 20s then there could be more children between Alexander and Frances. I do have a death cert for Elizabeth and John her son was present. 1883. Holmestown, but not sure as it is not recored in Raphoe.
The family was Church of Ireland.
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Many Thanks
Alison

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 19 Sep 2009 09:33

Alison...Can you confirm if the family were Pres./ RC.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 19 Sep 2009 09:20

Alison...This shows that David was in Milltown 1857...


Spence , Alexander , Milltown

Spence , David , Milltown

Spence , Robert , Glenmaquin Lower

It is from Griffiths Valuation.....The Alexander would not be his son (b.1849) but perhaps Davids brother/uncle/father

Aspen

Aspen Report 18 Sep 2009 18:01

I got the info. from the Church in Raphoe. It gave Alexander 1849 and Frances 1856 marriages. It gave birth of Mary 1838 Breahead Raphoe and Jane 1840 Miltown Raphoe. I know that David remained in Milltown until his death 1872. I think that David had other children. He must have moved to the Raphoe area for work. I just don't know where to start to look for him. If I could get where Alexander was baptised, that should help.
Regards
Alison

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Sep 2009 16:56

Alison.....Where did you get your info.from and what is it you have suggests he came from the ? Co.Donegal....

Aspen

Aspen Report 17 Sep 2009 13:24

I am trying to find David Spence from Donegal Ireland. I think he was born in Donegal. He had some children born there. I think he was born around 1799 and died 1872. He had Alexander, Frances, Mary and Jane. I am sure he had others. His wife may have been Elizabeth.