Find Ancestors

I did post this a while back and got nowhere but it keeps niggling at me and I can't let it lie......

Wouldn't have been a child from Leslie's side of the family, I'm 99.9% sure of that ( GGM disliked Edna so much she'd have rather raised the child herself than let Edna have any input), so that leaves Edna's brothers and sisters. Oh goodness, she's got dozens of them!.......that'll keep me busy for a while.................

Thanks all - I'll let you know if I find anything

Helen

I was going to suggest too that he wasnt her natural son. maybe she fostered him as her son.

yes, I've got their marriage cert and she's down as spinster. I haven't been able to find a previous marriage, so I assume it's true.

No, I couldn't find anything with mmn Mahomet (or any similar spellings) either. I did check to see if any of the other births had mmn which appear elsewhere in the family in case she was using another name, but I can't understand why she would be - she's shown as Middleton nee Mahomet on her second marriage certificate so presumably wouldn't have been using another name. Was it compulsory to declare mmn in the 30s?
I'm beginning to wonder if he was really her son (at least biologically). I've got a couple of letters he's written to other members of the family and he refers to her as Edna, not Mum/Mother which does strike me as a bit odd.

Confused,
Helen

Yes, now you mention it, the name does seem familiar!
Anyway, David/Ian is a mystery. The only other possibility I can think of is that he wasn't actually Leslie and Leah's child, which seems far-fetched but when all else fails....! Presumably they had no other children, and with the mystery surrounding the birth it may be he was a relative's child? Must try and curb this imagination ....

I vaguely remember a thread a few months ago with all this information!

well theres no births listed for him with mmn Mahomet

Do you have Leslie and Leah's marriage cert? Could she have been married before?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mahomet Leah Gladys E Walsingham 4b 290



Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MIDDLETON Leslie Charles N Bury St. E. 4a 923

She married her second husband in 1939
Name: Leah G E Middleton
Spouse Surname: Peskett
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1939
Registration district: Brighton
Registration county (inferred): Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 359
Ronald A Peskett

Deaths Sep 1931 (99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Middleton Leslie C N 29 Reading 2c 376

Oh sorry - mothers name was Leah Gladys Edna Mahomet - but she was always known as Edna!

Helen

Hang on - who is Edna! Where does Leah fit?
Jan

Yep, that's his parents' marriage - I was trying to keep the request simple, but I think if I tell you everything I've been told, it'll explain why I've had trouble finding information....

Ok here goes. Leslie was a patient in the RN Hospital Chatham, Edna was his nurse. They married in Bury St Edmunds where Leslie's parents lived. Don't know why they went to Witney, but that's the address on his death cert in Sept 1931. As I said, when Edna and david emigrated with her second husband,(they married in 1938 in Sussex) David's date of birth is shown as July 1931.

But Leslie's side of family knew nothing about him till early 1960's when Edna introduced him to his grandparents. Apparently Leslie hadn't known she was pregnant - (he must either had been ill for some time or date of birth wrong - or Leslie wasn't the father...) and as she didn't get on with Leslies parents she didn't tell them about the baby! We thought she might have gone to her family in Yorkshire, but no proof of this

Next we heard ofher, they hd come back to UK for a visit and david wanted to meet his grandmother....hence Edna made contact.

See why I'm confused!!!!
Helen

Possible marriage of parents:

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)

Mahomet Leah G E Middleton Bury St E 4a 2095
Middleton Leslie C N Mahomet Bury St. E. 4a 2095

Not sure if relevant:

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
Middleton Leah 37 Cheadle 6b 324

Her maiden name was Mahomet.

believe he was David Ian Middleton, however he is shown as Ian David on the emigration papers

Not entirely sure where he was born - parents were living in Witney, nr Oxford in September 1931 when his father died but don't know if they were there when David was born - his mothers family were in Yorkshire so it's possible that he could have been born there.


Helen

Helen, I don't understand your reply. As I say, there are loads of David Middleton births in 1931. I can only think you are excluding them because of location. More info please!
Jan

Helen,
Do you know his mothers maiden name?

Sylvie

Have tried both those, as well as genes. Any ideas where else I could try?

Helen

Where are you looking Helen? There are numerous births on both freebmd and ancestry.
Jan

David Middleton's date of birth is shown on his emigration documents as 19 July 1931, however I can't find his birth registered anywhere, even looking a couple of years either side of that date. Presumably to emigrate in the 1960's he must have had a passport and to get that he would have needed to have a birth certificate, but where do I look now? Any ideas?

Thanks , Helen