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Findingmypast
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30 Aug 2009 01:54 |
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REVISED POST : I am trying to find the first marriage of Thomas Cook, born in Weston Subedge,Gloucestershire(& baptised there on 30 August 1812). Have looked on IGI & it states his mother is Hannah Cook (no father is listed on baptism record so i think that Hannah is probably unmarried). On 1851 census he is recorded as "widower",& he married Mary Hughes in 1852.He seems to have had 2 children with Mary: Hannah or Anna (born 1852/1853) & Thomas (born about 1859). Can anybody uncover any leads as to who wife number one may be ? Thanks !
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2009 02:09 |
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Bit of a common name! Where is he living in 51 and 61, to know where to look in 41? Or have you found him in 41?
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Name: Thomas Cook Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Weston Subedge, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Mickleton County/Island: Gloucestershire
Thomas Cook 49 Mary Cook 42 George Hugse 13 (Mary's son, or Wife Lon, as Ancestry says ...) Anna Cook 8 Thomas Cook 2
1851
Civil parish: Weston Subedge Registration district: Evesham
Thomas Cook 37 Nancey Cook 48 - sister
Don't know what Weston Subedge was under in 41 ...
Ah.
1841
Name: Nancy Cook Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: West Sub Edge County/Island: Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Hulls 75 Nancy Cook 35 Amelia Cook 10
But he ain't there in 41!
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30 Aug 2009 02:17 |
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Hi horribly common name to research !!!(lots of Thomas Cook's in Gloucestershire..). 1851 census says living in Evesham,Gloucestershire ,could not find 100% Thomas on 1841 census...IGI states Nancy Cook baptised 1798(mother Hannah Cook,no listed father).Thomas + Mary Cook still in Weston Subedge on 1881 census(he died very shortly after).Can someone take a look on IGI for me & see if i am doing something wrong( a fresh pair of eyes ,please!
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SylviaInCanada
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30 Aug 2009 05:28 |
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100 people were enumerated in West Sub Edge in 1841.
There was no Thomas Cook/Cooke/Cooks
and in fact only one Thomas in total:-
Name: Thomas Stanley Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: West Sub Edge Hundred: Kiftsgate (Upper Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Evesham Sub-registration district: Broadway
Thomas Stanley 25 farmer William Burdock 20 Judith Keyte 25 Elleanor Brown 20
There was a James Cook, b.ca 181, Ag Lab ............. but he was not apparently born in Gloucestershire
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30 Aug 2009 19:42 |
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:17 |
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THOS COOK Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 30 AUG 1812 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:20 |
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May or may not be connected
THOMAS COOK Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 12 FEB 1792 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: CHARLES COOK Family Mother: SUSANNAH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:21 |
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Your Thomas had a sister
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARIA COOK Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 NOV 1807 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:22 |
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and another
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NANCY COOK Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 MAY 1798 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:23 |
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and a brother
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDWD SMITH COOK Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 23 NOV 1794 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:24 |
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another brother
JOHN COOK Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 20:25 |
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not one for convention then
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHOEBE COOK Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 MAY 1801 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: HANNAH COOK Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C018192
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30 Aug 2009 20:31 |
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thanks for the siblings Christine--i only knew about Nancy ! I knew i was doing something wrong on IGI,i could not find what you have found..All i need now is that elusive first marriage--but there are so many!! Regards Roy
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Findingmypast
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30 Aug 2009 20:59 |
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Many thanks to Christine & to Janey+ Sylvia for responding to this post. Still have not found the first Mrs.Cook but now have a family for Thomas--which is great ! Thanks Roy
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LadyKira
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30 Aug 2009 21:29 |
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a possible for edward
1841 census ages are rounded and relationships not stated
1841 census - household transcription Person: COOK, Edward Address: Hare Lane, St John The Baptist, Gloucester COOK, Edward M 45 1796 Gloucestershire VIEW COOK, John M 11 1830 Gloucestershire VIEW COOK, Elizabeth M 5 1836 Gloucestershire VIEW HASTINGS, John M 70 1771 Gloucestershire
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2009 22:04 |
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roy - for future ref, shouting (all capitals in the subject line) when calling for assistance sounds kind of like a demand.
You said (in revised version):
"Have looked on IGI & it states his mother is Hannah Cook (no father is listed on baptism record so i think that Hannah is probably unmarried)."
All you have to do is take the batch number and search in it for surname cook, mother Hannah.
Results for: Cook, British Isles Mother: Hannah Batch Number: C018192
1. PHOEBE COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAY 1801 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England 2. JOHN COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England 3. THOS COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 AUG 1812 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England 4. EDWD SMITH COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 NOV 1794 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England 5. MARIA COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 22 NOV 1807 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England 6. NANCY COOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1798 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
If you click on each of them, you see that there is no father on any of the six records.
No one seems to be able to find Thomas in 1841, or any record of a marriage. If you locate the magic wand that will do this, many of us will be beating a path to your door!
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JaneyCanuck
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30 Aug 2009 22:15 |
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The batch numbers for the parish are here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(N-Z).htm#W
Marriages 1753-1812 are here: M018192
but there are no marriages after 1812 in the IGI. Or baptisms. So if he was there, his marriage and baptism aren't accessible via the IGI.
If you try FreeREG
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
you can look at marriages that have been transcribed for Thomas Cook-s in Gloucestershire. The only ones in Weston Subedge are 1802 and 1783.
Without finding him in the 1841 census with a wife, and having some way of knowing it is him, how you would cross-reference to any marriage you found is a mystery anyway.
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