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Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 30 Aug 2009 01:54

REVISED POST : I am trying to find the first marriage of Thomas Cook, born in Weston Subedge,Gloucestershire(& baptised there on 30 August 1812).
Have looked on IGI & it states his mother is Hannah Cook (no father is listed on baptism record so i think that Hannah is probably unmarried).
On 1851 census he is recorded as "widower",& he married Mary Hughes in 1852.He seems to have had 2 children with Mary: Hannah or Anna (born 1852/1853) & Thomas (born about 1859).
Can anybody uncover any leads as to who wife number one may be ? Thanks !

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2009 02:09

Bit of a common name! Where is he living in 51 and 61, to know where to look in 41? Or have you found him in 41?

Answer:

Name: Thomas Cook
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston Subedge, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Mickleton
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Thomas Cook 49
Mary Cook 42
George Hugse 13 (Mary's son, or Wife Lon, as Ancestry says ...)
Anna Cook 8
Thomas Cook 2


1851

Civil parish: Weston Subedge
Registration district: Evesham

Thomas Cook 37
Nancey Cook 48 - sister


Don't know what Weston Subedge was under in 41 ...

Ah.

1841

Name: Nancy Cook
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: West Sub Edge
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Elizabeth Hulls 75
Nancy Cook 35
Amelia Cook 10


But he ain't there in 41!

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 30 Aug 2009 02:17

Hi
horribly common name to research !!!(lots of Thomas Cook's in Gloucestershire..).
1851 census says living in Evesham,Gloucestershire ,could not find 100% Thomas on 1841 census...IGI states Nancy Cook baptised 1798(mother Hannah Cook,no listed father).Thomas + Mary Cook still in Weston Subedge on 1881 census(he died very shortly after).Can someone take a look on IGI for me & see if i am doing something wrong( a fresh pair of eyes ,please!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Aug 2009 05:28

100 people were enumerated in West Sub Edge in 1841.


There was no Thomas Cook/Cooke/Cooks

and in fact only one Thomas in total:-

Name: Thomas Stanley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: West Sub Edge
Hundred: Kiftsgate (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Evesham
Sub-registration district: Broadway

Thomas Stanley 25 farmer
William Burdock 20
Judith Keyte 25
Elleanor Brown 20




There was a James Cook, b.ca 181, Ag Lab ............. but he was not apparently born in Gloucestershire





sylvia

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 30 Aug 2009 19:42

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:17

THOS COOK Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 AUG 1812 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:20

May or may not be connected

THOMAS COOK Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 FEB 1792 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: CHARLES COOK Family
Mother: SUSANNAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:21

Your Thomas had a sister


IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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MARIA COOK Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 NOV 1807 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:22

and another

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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NANCY COOK Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 MAY 1798 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:23

and a brother


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EDWD SMITH COOK Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 NOV 1794 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:24

another brother

JOHN COOK Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 20:25

not one for convention then


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PHOEBE COOK Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 MAY 1801 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: HANNAH COOK Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C018192

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 30 Aug 2009 20:31

thanks for the siblings Christine--i only knew about Nancy !
I knew i was doing something wrong on IGI,i could not find what you have found..All i need now is that elusive first marriage--but there are so many!!
Regards Roy

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 30 Aug 2009 20:59

Many thanks to Christine & to Janey+ Sylvia for responding to this post.
Still have not found the first Mrs.Cook but now have a family for Thomas--which is great !
Thanks Roy

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Aug 2009 21:29

a possible for edward

1841 census ages are rounded and relationships not stated


1841 census - household transcription
Person: COOK, Edward
Address: Hare Lane, St John The Baptist, Gloucester


COOK, Edward M 45 1796 Gloucestershire VIEW
COOK, John M 11 1830 Gloucestershire VIEW
COOK, Elizabeth M 5 1836 Gloucestershire VIEW
HASTINGS, John M 70 1771 Gloucestershire

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2009 22:04

roy - for future ref, shouting (all capitals in the subject line) when calling for assistance sounds kind of like a demand.

You said (in revised version):

"Have looked on IGI & it states his mother is Hannah Cook (no father is listed on baptism record so i think that Hannah is probably unmarried)."

All you have to do is take the batch number and search in it for surname cook, mother Hannah.


Results for:
Cook, British Isles
Mother: Hannah
Batch Number: C018192

1. PHOEBE COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Christening: 17 MAY 1801 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
2. JOHN COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
3. THOS COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 30 AUG 1812 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
4. EDWD SMITH COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 23 NOV 1794 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
5. MARIA COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Christening: 22 NOV 1807 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England
6. NANCY COOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Christening: 06 MAY 1798 Weston Subedge, Gloucester, England


If you click on each of them, you see that there is no father on any of the six records.


No one seems to be able to find Thomas in 1841, or any record of a marriage. If you locate the magic wand that will do this, many of us will be beating a path to your door!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 30 Aug 2009 22:15

The batch numbers for the parish are here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(N-Z).htm#W

Marriages 1753-1812 are here: M018192

but there are no marriages after 1812 in the IGI. Or baptisms. So if he was there, his marriage and baptism aren't accessible via the IGI.


If you try FreeREG

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

you can look at marriages that have been transcribed for Thomas Cook-s in Gloucestershire. The only ones in Weston Subedge are 1802 and 1783.

Without finding him in the 1841 census with a wife, and having some way of knowing it is him, how you would cross-reference to any marriage you found is a mystery anyway.