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Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:34
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Can anyone find out about her birth she was my grandmother married my granddad William Newton 1903 22 August on marriage cert she lived at 3 Victoria Terrace Barnsley Yorkshire father Edward Belk on 1891 census for 3 Victoria Terrace it says her father is Edward Marshall any help please Margaret
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 4,097 Send Message	Selena in South East London	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:36
	What's her age on the marriage certificate? Also, whats her fathers profession and who are the witnesses, could they be relatives?
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:39
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	she is aged 18 no relatives as wittnesses
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,596 Send Message	alviegal	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:44
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,596 Send Message	Here's that 1891. 1891 census transcription details for: 3, Victoria Terrace, Barnsley National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3770 Folio: 97 Page: 21 Reg. District: Barnsley Sub District: Barnsley Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: St Peter Parish: Barnsley City/Municipal Borough: Barnsley Address: 3, Victoria Terrace, Barnsley County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born MARSHALL, Edward Head Married M 38 1853 Coal Miner Barnsley Yorkshire MARSHALL, Mary Ann Wife Married F 30 1861 Barnsley Yorkshire MARSHALL, Florence Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Barnsley Yorkshire and 1901 1901 census transcription details for: 3, Victoria Terrace, Barnsley National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4312 Folio: 148 Page: 43 Reg. District: Barnsley Sub District: Barnsley Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: St Peters Parish: Barnsley City/Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Victoria Terrace, Barnsley County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born MARSHALL, Edward Head Married M 48 1853 Colliery Labourer In Mine Barnsley Yorkshire MARSHALL, Mary Wife Married F 41 1860 Barnsley Yorkshire MARSHALL, May Daughter F 2 1899 Royton Oldham Lancashire
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 4,097 Send Message	Selena in South East London	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:45
	This could be her birth Births Mar 1885 Belk Florence Barnsley 9c 204 How do you know that the 1891 is your Florence?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:49
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	whats the fathers profession on the marriage cert?
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 4,097 Send Message	Selena in South East London	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:50
	Is this a possiblity - 1881 Edwd. BELK Head M Male 41 Tankersley, York, England Steel Moulder Annie BELK Wife M Female 39 Attercliffe, York, England Annie BELK Daur Female 11 Attercliffe, York, England Scholar Clara E. BELK Daur Female 9 Attercliffe, York, England Scholar Frederick W. BELK Son Male 7 Attercliffe, York, England Scholar George W. BELK Son Male 6 Attercliffe, York, England Scholar Ernest BELK Son Male 4 Attercliffe, York, England Scholar Ada BELK Daur Female 5 m Attercliffe, York, England Hannah KITCHING Mo In Law W Female 73 Wentworth, York, England John E. KITCHING Nephew Male 15 Tantersley, York, England Lab In Umbrella Factory Dwelling 19 Amberly St Census Place Attercliffe Cum Darnall, York, England Family History Library Film 1342128 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4666 / 5
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:51
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	i don't for sure but this is the only one i can find born in Barnsley
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:55
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Just because she was living in Barnsley when she married doesn't necessarily mean she was born there.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:57
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	i know she was born in Barnsley
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 4,097 Send Message	Selena in South East London	Report	26 Aug 2009 21:57
	Hi Margaret, how do you know that it is your Florence on the 1891 - are you going by the address only? Just out of interest can you post the witnesses names and we might be able to tie them in. Also can you post her fathers profession from the Marriage Certificate
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:02
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	yes going bye the address only father was a miner witnesses Arthur Swift Eliza Sutton
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:04
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	How do you KNOW she was born in Barnsley-I'm not being rude-just wondered how you know for sure-family members can get things slightly adrift sometimes by word of mouth that's all.-You don't have her birth cert I take it from this-Do you know where she grew up? what church she may have attended? or maybe even school?-You could try local papers around the time of the possible Mrashall?belk name problem. I did this for one of mine and it turned out they had comitted a pretty bad crime-and had officially chnaged their name after serving their scentence. Don't want to firghten you!! but it might help.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:06
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Have come across Arthur swift before as a nieghbour In Worsbro Bridge Barnsley
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 4,097 Send Message	Selena in South East London	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:12
	Have you tried looking for Edward Belk, miner, on the 1891 and 1901 but at a different address?
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	Margaret	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:16
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 35 Send Message	i will try that next thanks for your help
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Just trying to build a bigger picture- These may or may not be Florences children. Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Hilda Belk Wortley 9c 680 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1914 (98%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWTON Wilfred Belk Barnsley 9c 473 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Gladys Belk Barnsley 9c 372 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1918 (98%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Mabel Belk Barnsley 9c 406 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1921 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton May Belk Barnsley 9c 460
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:29
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	I think-as the only black and white info you have at present is her marriage-naming the father as Edward Belk-you need next to get her birth cert-confirming both parents-or you may find it names only a mother- Maybe Edward Belk wasn't actualy her father-or had died/done a runner by the time she was born? Possible she just picked a name rather than put nothing -that wasn't unheard of. My grandads marriage helped us-said one surname then formerly the other! Then his birth had it the other way round on that and had a diffrent father named altogether!!! we found them hidden under a floorboard after the house had been emptied. Don't think they'd have been too pleased with us! Birth ref is Belk Florence Barnsley 9c 204
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Familyfinder	Report	26 Aug 2009 22:30
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 3,141 Send Message	Thought you's already chedcked for Belks on 1891 and 1901-Thats a must before thinking of anything else!

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