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Thankyou so much Julie will send for the certificate Thanks again for all your help

Im stumped

I can't see a birth for any of the Ashby children

It might be best to get Louisa & Henrys marriage cert for her dads name as i really thinking that Rueben might of been her dad

Thankyou so much to everyone for all you time & help finding info for me Big Big Thankyou's
jacks

Now i have hit a brick wall as i can't see them in the 1851

On the 1861 Elizabeth is down as Unmarried..so she might not have been married before

Thankyou for clearing that up for me Julie, i was begining to get confused, lol

No...i hate it when corrections are done as sometimes they are wrong

It was Elizabeth that married twice

Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)

Ashby Elizabeth Malling 2a 585
Hartrup Reuben Malling 2a 585

Louisa name Ashby do you think she was married before?

yes please Julie, you all have been a great help really appreicate everything so far!

Jacks

Did you want to go back on this too
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Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
ASHBY Louisa Malling 2a 596
Smith Henry Malling 2a 596

This is the 1871...Someone has done a name correction but the image does say Ashby

Louisa Ashby
[Louisa Hartup]
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Reubin
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Ightham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Ightham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Old Bury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Reubin Hartup 54
Elizabeth Hartup 56
Louisa Ashby 42
Ann Ashby 15
George W Ashby 9 months
Hannah Wickham 68

Oh yeah...her age is 22 lolol
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1861

Louisa Ashby
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Ightham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Ightham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ashby 41
George Ashby 19
Mary Ashby 17
Jane Ashby 14
Louisa Ashby 11
Anne Ashby 5
William Ashby 2
Reuben Alhoupe 38 <<<<<<<<

Thanks Annie G your a star

Thanks Julie it could be a good possability that it is Louisa

This might be Louisa's death

Deaths Dec 1883 (97%)
SMITH Louisa 33 Malling 2a 343
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If the above death is correct maybe thats why they said they were their parents

Annie & Margaret,

I have henry on 1881 census which does say that Reuben & Elizabeth are his grandparents, there name on 1881 is Hartrop, am now curious to see that they are noted down as son/daughter on 1891,

I have Henry married to Johanna Carey at Crockenhill Kent in 1902
jacks

The 1891 name change has this against it

Smith rather than Alerop
Henry's name is Smith, ditto Mary Smith above. They are brother and sister and were living in the same household in the 1881 census. Son of Louise Smith, and actually grandson of Reuben and Elizabeth Altrop (not Alerop).

Though you haven't asked this is the 1881

Henry Smith
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Lousia
Gender: Male
Where born: Ightham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Ightham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Ightham Common
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Hartrop 60
Elizabeth Hartrop 63
Ann Ashby 24
Lousia Smith 31
George Ashby 10
Mary Ann Smith 7
Henry Smith 5

Curious, on that 1891 census Mary & Henry Smith are listed as children of Reuben & Elizabeth but they're aged 74 and 73 and the children are 17 and 15. Kate Palmer is a grandaughter.

Thankyou Annie G

Hello, could i have a census lookup 1891 & 1901 please, for,
Henry Smith born Ightham Kent c1876
Thankyou in advance
jacks