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My 2G Grandfather was James Metcalf c1842. James married Alice Dembry in 1864. The family lived in Sunderland and I know from their marriage certificate that James' father was William Metcalf, but I have no other information on William Metcalf.

Does anyone know anything about William Metcalf c1820? Who he married and when. Where he was born and when he died
Thanks Maxine

where did he marry and who did he marry?


June x

You must have had occupations for the groom & his father on the cert, this may help

Sam

Someone is doing Metcalf as a One Name Study so worth checking the Guild of One Name Studies which will give you her contact details.

There is also this:

Website: www.metcalfe.org.uk

You might find some info on there.

Jill

William Metcalf c1820 was a mariner. That is all the infromation available on his son's marriage certificate. I cannot get a birth cert or a marriage cert because I dont have enough information.

His son James Metcalf 1842 was a Shipwright.

Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%)
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Dembry Alice Sunderland 10a 535
Metcalf James Sunderland 10a 535




so this is the marriage


is this Alice in 1871

Name: Alice Metcalf
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Monk Wearmouth, Durham, England
Civil parish: Monk Wearmouth Shore
Ecclesiastical parish: Monk Wearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 391
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Metcalf 29 widow
Thomas Dunbey 12
James D Metcalf 7
Christiane Metcalf 3




June x

Have you found the family in the 1851?

Jill

William Metcalf was not shown as deceased on James Metcalf's marriage cert.

I will have a look at www.metcalf.org.uk - see if that turns up anything.

There is a marriage for William Metcalf and Catherine Thompson - but I have nothing to support this information.

what address did James marry from please


June x

Hi June

Yes this is the family - I have this information.

James Metcalf died in 1869 aged 29 years, and Alice (Dembry) was widowed as shown in 1871.

The children are Thomas Demrby, James Dembry Metcalf and Catherine Metcalf.

Hi Jill

No I cant find the metcalf's in 1851 census - I suspect William was at sea and I cannot establish who he married.

Hi June

James Metcalf married Alice Dembry from Hamilton Street, Sunderland on 21.02.1864 in the parish of Monkwearmouth, Sunderland

Hmm thats interesting. Been on www.metcalfe.org and it would seem the metcalfs originated in North Yorkshire. I always thought they came from Scotland - although I have no idea why I though that.

David

sorry David cant find nothing yet


June x

1861

Name: William Metcalf
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub-registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: John and Isabella
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
George Weatherhead 45
William Metcalf 41 married
Thomas Woodhouse 49
Stephen Loyd 30
Joseph Scorfield 39
Thomas Loyd 26
George Giffells 24
Alfred Smith 17
August Kanca 19
Johan Schutt 18





found this


June x

Nice one June.

Where did you find this?

Maxine (David's wife)

On Ancestry


June x

Brilliant.

Had a look at 1861 census and can also find William Metcalf married to Ann with kids John, Frances, William etc but no sign of James.

Perhaps I will try to get a birth cert for James Metcalf - although there are 2 probably entries - it will probably be worth it just to find out for certain who his parents were. Never realised Metcalf was such a common name - and to think I was the only Metcalf in my school!!
Maxine

Maxine i give you 1861 for William at sea.
If i was you i would look for James in 1861 to track him back,




June x

Hi June

Yeah - I was just checking in 1861 for James when I found another William. There is no sign of James Metcalf in 1861 - the only reference is a James T metcalf - which I know is wrong. Thats why I think I need to establish the name of James's mother (William's wife).

Then I may be able to find her in 1861 census and establish if there are any other siblings. Maxine

There is a baptism of William Metcalfe in South Shields St. Hilda on 14 Oct 1821 son of John and Frances

And a marriage in same church of John Metcalf and Frances Forrest 29 Mar 1819

Janis