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William Thynne c1798

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 00:07

William was born c1798 St Luke's Shoreditch, London, England

He married
CATHERINE SHAW Family
Marriage: 21 AUG 1822 Christ Church Greyfriars Newgate, London, London, England

I have him on 1841 and 1861 census I think.
1841 Address: Pitt Street, St George The Martyr, London Road, Southwark
WARR, John M 40 1801
WARR, George M 15 1826
WARR, John M 10 1831
WARR, Mary F 7 1834
WARR, Martha F 2 1839
SKINNER, Sarah F 75 1766 Surrey
CONNELL, Cornelius M 15 1826
THYNE, John M 20 1821
CALLAGHAN, William M 25 1816
RICHARDSON, William M 20 1821
WARR, Charles M 20 1821
WARR, Mary F 20 1821


1861 census THYNNE WILLIAM 63 Holborn, St George-the-Martyr and Andrew
Address: 16, Lambs Conduit Passage, St George The Martyr, Finsbury
THYNNE, William Head Married M 63 1798 Biscuit Baker
...
Middlesex (This does not appear to be him after all)


His children are
Rebecca 26/06/1823 Shoreditch
John 22/09/1825 Shoreditch
William 04/12/1827 Shoreditch
George 16/09/1829 Shoreditch
Catherine 1830 Shoreditch
Joseph 1832 St Lukes, London, England

In 1841 both Joseph and George are in a workhouse

1841 Address: St Luke Workhouse, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets
THYNE, Joseph M 9 Middlesex
THYNE, George M 10 Middlesex

1851 George
is in clerkenwell prison
Clerkenwell Prison is a common gaol for the county of Middlesex,and receives prisoners of every description.

I would like to know more about William and Catheine. I have found this a difficult family as there are so many aristocratic Thynnes with similar names that mine get lost.
I would also like to know what happened to George.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 6 Aug 2009 00:16

Looks like he didnt learn his lesson

Name: George Thynne
Date of Trial: 8 Mar 1852
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

1 year Larceny after previous conviction.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 00:19

How sad.

He was so young when he was put in prison.

Thank you Lindsey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 07:40

Is anyone able to find William and Catherine in 1851?
I only have parts of this census at present.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 6 Aug 2009 08:36

This is William German biscuit Maker ?

Lambs conduit passage

1851 England Census about Eliza Thynne
Name: Eliza Thynne
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George The Martyr
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thynne 50
Eliza Thynne 43
Thomas Thynne 12
Eliza Thynne 10
Henry Thynne 5

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 09:13

HMMM

I have no record of a marriage to Eliza.


The other family names are not right,

Maybe the one at the same address I found is not right.

I have come across hints of other researchers with simlilar family names but different dates hinting William may have had a brother.

I have to go to work now but will try to drop in later.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 11:04

This could be the one living at
Address: 16, Lambs Conduit Passage, St George The Martyr, Finsbury


IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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WILLIAM THYNNE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 31 AUG 1807

Christening: SEP 1807 Saint John Horseleydowns, Bermondsey, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM THYNNE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

P015521

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 6 Aug 2009 11:50

Lets start at the beginning this one I think is him Baker

1841 England Census about William Thyme
Name: William Thyme
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thyme 40
Eliza Thyme 30
Thomas Thyme 2
Eliza Thyme 6 Mo

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 6 Aug 2009 16:02

I am working till late tonight. Just grabbing 5 Mins.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 08:28

I have a sneaky suspicion that the 1841 with William on his own is not ny one either.

They were both still alive in 1832 when Joseph was born but George and Joseph were in a workhouse by 1841.

William 1827 I have not traced 1841 or 1851.

John 1825 is possibly this one
?1841 Address: Pitt Street, St George The Martyr, London Road, Southwark
WARR, John M 40 1801
WARR, George M 15 1826
WARR, John M 10 1831
WARR, Mary F 7 1834
WARR, Martha F 2 1839
SKINNER, Sarah F 75 1766 Surrey
CONNELL, Cornelius M 15 1826
THYNE, John M 20 1821
CALLAGHAN, William M 25 1816
RICHARDSON, William M 20 1821
WARR, Charles M 20 1821
WARR, Mary F 20 1821

I have not found Rebecca or Catherine.

It is possible that William and Catherine were both dead by 1841.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 09:05

I have found a possible christenng for William on IGI but no other clues to see if it ismy family or the Longleat family.

1. WILLIAM THYNNE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 APR 1797 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England
Parents Thomas and Elizabeth.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 7 Aug 2009 12:46

There are 2 trees on ancestry with William , Shoreditch ,on but no parents on either. but when I checked on their sources .some of the attached censuses didnt make sense, they both have his death 1869 Catherine d 1876.
Rebecca and Wiliam are in another institutiion 0n the 1841,

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 14:16

My grandmother used to tell me they were linked to the marquess of Bath but I have found no truth so far.

There are only a few families of the mame

Besides the Bath linked Thynnes there are a cluster in the Durham area not yet linked.

There is a famly of bakers living in Blackheath Tranquil Vale
I have a book with a photograph of the shop and Thynne clearly written over it. Could be linked to the William you posted.

Another family in London that I wonder if linked at an earlier generation as there are some similarities with names.

And my Thynnes who are linked to Shoreditch and Plumstead Woolwich areas.
I have traced families for my Joseph, William and John.

What were the names of the Ancestry trees please? I tried to use Ancestry with family treemaker and it kept doing things I did not want it to do, Now it wont let me on their at all.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 7 Aug 2009 15:22

Watts tree ....Gandaw 88 Perth west Australia
Browne tree.. Tracey NorfolK both recently active

Maybe it might be worth a free trial with ancestry?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 15:27

phew

neither of those are mine

I had my free trial and now I cannot even access the free stuff.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 15:48

Tracey Browne may be my cousins wife.

Her tree is not open to me and she has not replied to my messages.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Aug 2009 15:59

I have had previous contact with the Watts tree but do not have permission at present.