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6 Aug 2009 00:07 |
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William was born c1798 St Luke's Shoreditch, London, England
He married CATHERINE SHAW Family Marriage: 21 AUG 1822 Christ Church Greyfriars Newgate, London, London, England
I have him on 1841 and 1861 census I think. 1841 Address: Pitt Street, St George The Martyr, London Road, Southwark WARR, John M 40 1801 WARR, George M 15 1826 WARR, John M 10 1831 WARR, Mary F 7 1834 WARR, Martha F 2 1839 SKINNER, Sarah F 75 1766 Surrey CONNELL, Cornelius M 15 1826 THYNE, John M 20 1821 CALLAGHAN, William M 25 1816 RICHARDSON, William M 20 1821 WARR, Charles M 20 1821 WARR, Mary F 20 1821
1861 census THYNNE WILLIAM 63 Holborn, St George-the-Martyr and Andrew Address: 16, Lambs Conduit Passage, St George The Martyr, Finsbury THYNNE, William Head Married M 63 1798 Biscuit Baker ... Middlesex (This does not appear to be him after all)
His children are Rebecca 26/06/1823 Shoreditch John 22/09/1825 Shoreditch William 04/12/1827 Shoreditch George 16/09/1829 Shoreditch Catherine 1830 Shoreditch Joseph 1832 St Lukes, London, England
In 1841 both Joseph and George are in a workhouse
1841 Address: St Luke Workhouse, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets THYNE, Joseph M 9 Middlesex THYNE, George M 10 Middlesex
1851 George is in clerkenwell prison Clerkenwell Prison is a common gaol for the county of Middlesex,and receives prisoners of every description.
I would like to know more about William and Catheine. I have found this a difficult family as there are so many aristocratic Thynnes with similar names that mine get lost. I would also like to know what happened to George.
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Lindsey*
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6 Aug 2009 00:16 |
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Looks like he didnt learn his lesson
Name: George Thynne Date of Trial: 8 Mar 1852 Location of Trial: Middlesex, England Sentence: Imprisonment Crime: See Image Date of Execution or Release: See Image
1 year Larceny after previous conviction.
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LadyKira
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6 Aug 2009 00:19 |
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How sad.
He was so young when he was put in prison.
Thank you Lindsey
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6 Aug 2009 07:40 |
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Is anyone able to find William and Catherine in 1851? I only have parts of this census at present.
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Lindsey*
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6 Aug 2009 08:36 |
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This is William German biscuit Maker ?
Lambs conduit passage
1851 England Census about Eliza Thynne Name: Eliza Thynne Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: St George The Martyr County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 4f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 191 Household Members: Name Age William Thynne 50 Eliza Thynne 43 Thomas Thynne 12 Eliza Thynne 10 Henry Thynne 5
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6 Aug 2009 09:13 |
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HMMM
I have no record of a marriage to Eliza.
The other family names are not right,
Maybe the one at the same address I found is not right.
I have come across hints of other researchers with simlilar family names but different dates hinting William may have had a brother.
I have to go to work now but will try to drop in later.
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LadyKira
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6 Aug 2009 11:04 |
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This could be the one living at Address: 16, Lambs Conduit Passage, St George The Martyr, Finsbury
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAM THYNNE Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 31 AUG 1807 Christening: SEP 1807 Saint John Horseleydowns, Bermondsey, London, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM THYNNE Family Mother: ELIZABETH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P015521
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6 Aug 2009 11:50 |
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Lets start at the beginning this one I think is him Baker
1841 England Census about William Thyme Name: William Thyme Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Hundred: Westminster County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: Belgrave Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Thyme 40 Eliza Thyme 30 Thomas Thyme 2 Eliza Thyme 6 Mo
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6 Aug 2009 16:02 |
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I am working till late tonight. Just grabbing 5 Mins.
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7 Aug 2009 08:28 |
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I have a sneaky suspicion that the 1841 with William on his own is not ny one either.
They were both still alive in 1832 when Joseph was born but George and Joseph were in a workhouse by 1841.
William 1827 I have not traced 1841 or 1851.
John 1825 is possibly this one ?1841 Address: Pitt Street, St George The Martyr, London Road, Southwark WARR, John M 40 1801 WARR, George M 15 1826 WARR, John M 10 1831 WARR, Mary F 7 1834 WARR, Martha F 2 1839 SKINNER, Sarah F 75 1766 Surrey CONNELL, Cornelius M 15 1826 THYNE, John M 20 1821 CALLAGHAN, William M 25 1816 RICHARDSON, William M 20 1821 WARR, Charles M 20 1821 WARR, Mary F 20 1821
I have not found Rebecca or Catherine.
It is possible that William and Catherine were both dead by 1841.
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7 Aug 2009 09:05 |
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I have found a possible christenng for William on IGI but no other clues to see if it ismy family or the Longleat family.
1. WILLIAM THYNNE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 APR 1797 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England Parents Thomas and Elizabeth.
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7 Aug 2009 12:46 |
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There are 2 trees on ancestry with William , Shoreditch ,on but no parents on either. but when I checked on their sources .some of the attached censuses didnt make sense, they both have his death 1869 Catherine d 1876. Rebecca and Wiliam are in another institutiion 0n the 1841,
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LadyKira
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7 Aug 2009 14:16 |
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My grandmother used to tell me they were linked to the marquess of Bath but I have found no truth so far.
There are only a few families of the mame
Besides the Bath linked Thynnes there are a cluster in the Durham area not yet linked.
There is a famly of bakers living in Blackheath Tranquil Vale I have a book with a photograph of the shop and Thynne clearly written over it. Could be linked to the William you posted.
Another family in London that I wonder if linked at an earlier generation as there are some similarities with names.
And my Thynnes who are linked to Shoreditch and Plumstead Woolwich areas. I have traced families for my Joseph, William and John.
What were the names of the Ancestry trees please? I tried to use Ancestry with family treemaker and it kept doing things I did not want it to do, Now it wont let me on their at all.
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7 Aug 2009 15:22 |
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Watts tree ....Gandaw 88 Perth west Australia Browne tree.. Tracey NorfolK both recently active
Maybe it might be worth a free trial with ancestry?
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LadyKira
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7 Aug 2009 15:27 |
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phew
neither of those are mine
I had my free trial and now I cannot even access the free stuff.
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7 Aug 2009 15:48 |
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Tracey Browne may be my cousins wife.
Her tree is not open to me and she has not replied to my messages.
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7 Aug 2009 15:59 |
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I have had previous contact with the Watts tree but do not have permission at present.
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