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T.hanks Everyone for help on Francis or Frank Shorny .
Godfrey

Hi Godfrey

1891 Census

Frank Shorney
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Som, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Caerleon
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Shorney 41
Sarah Shorney 39
Frank Shorney 10
Albert Shorney 8
Florence Shorney 6
Sarah Shorney 2
Geo Williams 35
Mary Williams 26



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Is this the right family?

regards

Ruth

1871
Name: Henry Edney Shorney
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil parish: Upper Machen
Town: Upper Machen
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Mynyddyslwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 291
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edney Shorney 20
Rose Ellen Shorney 18



Just posting this in case this is a brother of Frank

I think this is who Godfrey means - he really is Frank!:

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
Shorney Frank Newport, M. 11a 282
Webster James Newport M 11a 282
WILLIAMS Harriet Ann S Newport M 11a 282
Williams Sarah Newport M 11a 282

Jan

Hi Godfrey

Looks as if he may be using the name Frank

1901 Census

Name: Frank Shorney
Age in 1901: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: Pillgwenlly Holy Trinity
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Shorney 50
Sarah Shorney 48
Frank Shorney 19
Albert Shorney 17
Floery Shorney 15
Sarah Shorney 12
Mabel Shorney 7
Alice Shorney 6


Regards

Ruth

Did you put Francis by mistak?

1881 Wales Census
about Frank Shorney
Name: Frank Shorney
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Over Listcombe

Civil parish: St Woollos
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 13 Upper Jeddo St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Laborer

Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Name Age
Frank Shorney 30
Sarah Shorney 27

1881 how about this one

Name: Frank Shorney
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Over Listcombe

Civil parish: St Woollos
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 13 Upper Jeddo St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Laborer

Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Shorney 30 - labourer
Sarah Shorney 27 born Exeter

1891
Name: Frank Shorney
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Som, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Caerleon
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Shorney 41
Sarah Shorney 39 Newport, Monmouthshire
Frank Shorney 10
Albert Shorney 8
Florence Shorney 6
Sarah Shorney 2
Geo Williams 35 Newport, Monmouthshire - brother
Mary Williams 26 Newport, Monmouthshire - sister

Godfrey, don't understand where the Sarah Williams info is from. I have this Francis, who obviously married the Mary Prout in the marriages found above:


1891 England Census
about Francis Thornes
Name: Francis Thornes
[Francis Shorney]
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Cannington, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Thornes 41
Mary Thornes 35
Mary Thornes 11
Elizabeth Thornes 10
Winifred Thornes 8
Lucy Thornes 6
William Thornes 4
Francis Thornes 2
Agnes Thornes 1/12
Mary Prout 72

Jan

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Shormey Frank Newport Mon 11a 282
Shorney Frank Newport, M. 11a 282
Webster James Newport M 11a 282
WILLIAMS Harriet Ann S Newport M 11a 282
Williams Sarah Newport M 11a 282


Could it be Frank rather than Francis

Only info i have F shorney born Over liscombe Devon 1851 married Sarah Williams don,t know when ,moved to Newport south wales .
godfrey

I can't find Over Liscombe either.

Godfrey when and where did they marry. What census do you have him on and where?

Linda

I am still trying to work out where Over Liscombe is near?


All I keep finding is the one born in Somerset

Godfrey, could do with some feedback on how valid all this is.
Jan

Sorry Linda Its Francis Shorney
Godfrey

I can't even see the marriage, but Godfrey has replied by pm


Trying to go backwards on Francis Sansom

So are we looking for Francis Sansom or Shornely?

Godfrey please click on reply at the top of this thread rather than use a pm as it helps all the others who are trying to help

Linda

When and where did he marry?


Found this one
Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)
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Carter John Barton R. 6a 231
Morgan Emma Barton R. 6a 231
Prout Mary Barton R. 6a 231
Shorney Francis Barton R. 6a 231
THOMPSON Emily Barton R. 6a 231


1881 there is a Francis Shorney with wife called Mary in Barton Regis registration district
Francis b Cannington, Somerset 1849


More details would be useful

Don't know about Devon, but have found this:

Births Dec 1848 (>99%)
SHORNEY Francis Bridgwater 10 325

Jan

What are you trying to find out about him? Are you trying to go forwards or backwards? Which censuses do you need etc?

Any kind person out there could find info on Francis Shorney 1851 born Over Liscombe Devon would be grateful thanks .
Married Sarah Williams .