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Hi Barry
Taylor is the surname
Shaftesbury is the birth place
and 5a 230 is the number for when ordering the birth cert

Hope this makes sense

Samantha

Hi,

I'm very new to this and having trouble seeing the wood for the trees. Can someone please explain - or point me to where it's explained what lines like ...

Taylor Ellen Jane Shaftesbury 5a 230

... mean? The 5a and the 230?

And is Taylor the surname or Shaftesbury.

Thanks in advance for (hopefully!) your patience.

Barry

Hi Julie
No on the marriage cert it states he was a builder

Samantha

On the 1861 Edwin was a Cabinet maker hopefully his occupation matches on Ellen's marriage cert

Julie

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Vicary Frances Edwina W Lambeth 1d 353
Vicary Francis Bryant W Lambet 1d 353
,,,,,twins

Thank you most greatful

Samantha

You're welcome

have just added Ellens birth details too

Julie
I love you thank you so much for this i have been search all sites to see what i could find with no joy as yet,
half the mystery solved now
Thank you

1861

Ellen J Taylor
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edwin
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Shaftesbury, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Shaftesbury Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Sarum
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Shaftesbury
Sub-registration district: Shaftesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Taylor 36
Charlotte Taylor 38
Edwin F Taylor 13
Frederic C Taylor 11
Emma C Taylor 7
Ellen J Taylor 5
Frances M Taylor 4
Edwina Taylor 2
Mary Ann Taylor 3 weeks
Sarah Coward 70.......Nurse
Frederic Warren 33

Frederic Warren is down as Brother but i think it should be BIL

Just checked image & it is brother-in-law
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Marriages Jun 1847 (>99%)

Taylor Edwin Shaftesbury 8 173
WARREN Charlotte Shaftesbury 8 173
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Births Jun 1855 (>99%)
Taylor Ellen Jane Shaftesbury 5a 230

Oh heck i dont know which one it might be, her marriage cert does not give much away either

The only way to be absolutely sure that you have Ellen Jane's correct parentage is to buy her birth certificate.


Assuming she was registered as E#llen Jane (which is not always a given!!), these are two possible birth registrations for her.


A certificate will cost £7


Births Sep 1857 (96%)
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Taylor Ellen Jane Marylebone 1a 388


Births Mar 1860 (>99%)
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TAYLOR Ellen Jane Clerkenwell 1b 560




sylvia

My GG Grandfather had the middle names of Warren Bryant and his twin sister Warren Edwina.
Their father was Thomas John Vicary married to Ellen Jane Taylor on 23/06/1878 in Lambeth.
Ellen was born 1859ish lambeth maybe?
Ellens father was Edwin Taylor so i know where Edwina middle name came from, but who was Ellens mother was she a Warren which might explain Warren for a middle name for both siblings.
Where can i look for a marriage for Edwin Taylor to a wife in Lambeth poss?

from a confused head