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I had a look at that I am convinced it is Sarah Ann Evans married Harry Patterson

On Tees Valley indexes you can confirm who married who:

http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/

It confirms that Sarah Evans married Harry Patterson and Mary Evans married Samuel T. Evans.

Hi Linda

I think

>>>Evans Sarah Ann Middlesbro' 9d 1096
>>>Patterson Harry Middlesbro' 9d 1096

is the marriage i think looks more promising... thanks for your help...

From FreeBMD...a possible..

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Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Evans Mary Middlesbro' 9d 1096
Evans Samuel Thomas Middlesbro' 9d 1096
>>>Evans Sarah Ann Middlesbro' 9d 1096
>>>Patterson Harry Middlesbro' 9d 1096

Linda

I now have my dad's (mum's) birth certicate
From Andrew

Regarding

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Winifred Gwendoline B Patterson
Name: Winifred Gwendoline B Patterson
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Swansea
County: Glamorgan, West Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1168

Possible Sibling
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Phyllis L B Patterson
Name: Phyllis L B Patterson
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Evans
District: Swansea
County: Glamorgan, West Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 2230


Winifred Gwendoline was indeed born 1909 her parents were called Harry Patterson and her mother Sarah Ann Patterson formerly Evans all lived in Brynhyfryd Swansea Wales..

It seems Phyllis L B Patterson was also Winifred sister sibling

I just need more info now on Sarah Ann Patterson and Harry Patterson ie the marriage when they were born etc

Many Kind Regards

Andy

Hi everyone

I managed to speak to my dad and get the facts proper...


Winifred Gwendoline B Patterson (born 1909 Wales Died 1974 Middlesbrough) was indeed with a Charles Rhodes ( they never married) they moved from South Wales to Redcar I believe then later onto Middlesbrough... they had several children

Charles Rhodes was born I believe in Bury Lancs around 1900 and died in 1950 in Middlesbrough


the Children were

Brian Patterson was a half brother who died in London in 1996/97
CharlesRhodes born 1944 died 1960
Alan Rhodes 1949/1950 still alive
Thomas Rhodes 1949 still alive
Joan Rhodes 1947/48 still alive

Charles's father was called Harold/Harry who was from Wales and moved to Redcar he was a Butcher and had a shop or 2 there...

Winifred Gwendoline B Patterson married in 1955 to a George Wood at Middlesbrough Registrar office...

Finally able to get some info... thankyou

I will ask my dad tomorrow who is father was called (I believe it is Charles)

I think he was mention Harry as his grand father...

Hi

Yes both these people are my realitives

Here's another Rhodes with mother's maiden name Patterson.

Name: Thomas Rhodes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1948
Registration district: Middlesbro'
Registration county: Yorkshire, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1260 (click to see others on page)


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And another.

Name: Alan Rhodes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1949
Registration district: Middlesbro'
Registration county: Yorkshire, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1122 (click to see others on page)

There should also be a Brian and a Joan we already know about Charles 1944 this is fasinating thankyou all for helping us...

Linda

Yeh you prob are right I sometimes speak the way I spell.. thanks for the correct meaning :--)


With just a little knowledge of the Welsh pronunciations (Welsh ancestors etc) and looking at google maps could Brin Eridid be Brynhyfrid I wonder...a small villiage within the area of Swansea.

Hi Margaret Yeh I think I messed things up a little sorry it can be at times quite su real...

Hi Jan

sorry didnt see the second page...

regarding

A Charles Rhodes died Dec. quarter 1975, C. Cleveland. He was born 3 Oct. 1944.

Yes this is my dad's brother ( he later committed sucicide)

I think my dad may have got things mixed up I will telephone him tomorrow to find out who is mother and father are I do not have his birth certifcate to hand ( we live a long away from each other) i am sure his mother is the Winifred Gwendoline Blair Patterson... but god knows who she was with ie another Charles or a Harold !!! Not being married does not give much....

With just a little knowledge of the Welsh pronunciations (Welsh ancestors etc) and looking at google maps could Brin Eridid be Brynhyfrid I wonder...a small villiage within the area of Swansea.

Linda

And another.

Name: Alan Rhodes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1949
Registration district: Middlesbro'
Registration county: Yorkshire, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1122 (click to see others on page)

Here's another Rhodes with mother's maiden name Patterson.

Name: Thomas Rhodes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1948
Registration district: Middlesbro'
Registration county: Yorkshire, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1260 (click to see others on page)

A Charles Rhodes died Dec. quarter 1975, C. Cleveland. He was born 3 Oct. 1944.

Andrew, I wonder if your dad has the generations mixed up?
It looks as if that 1944 Charles is your dad's brother and his mother's maiden name is Patterson.
Do you have your dad's birth certificate? It must have parents names?

Andrew, without birth cert you can only get mother's maiden name.
Jan

Hi Jan

Andrew, the 1944 Charles is Rhodes mother Patterson.
Jan


Thankyou very very much ( this is then my dad's brother_ then

I wonder if you could tell me is Charles (the father) or Harold or Harry the father 1 of Charles (1944)

A bit of a sad story here but Charles ( 1944) committed sucide infront of a train think he died in 1974...

Andrew, the 1944 Charles is Rhodes mother Patterson.
Jan

Jan

PATTERSON GWENDOLINE F 1909 2 Gateshead Durham

I am not sure this is the same person to be honest unless Middlesbrough back then came under Durham...