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Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 13:57

Can anyone tell me how to fget information from scottish census?
I am trying to find a James A? Pollock b. 1834 in scotland. He was i the durham area by 1880 as an iron worker but I have no other info. I do not know where in scotland he came from and his birth date comes from the english census so may well be incorrect.
I am also trying to trace Irish relatives - are the Irish archives on internet access? All help welcome.
Judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 14:13

Scotlands People have the census,pay per view only.
And if you have Scottish ancestry it is wise to sign up anyway as its the best for all scots records.
Or ancestry have scottish census ,but you cant view the images.

Irish records are more hit and miss I have found ,but there are a few people on here that are rather good at finding Irish info,just not me though.
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 14:20

If you can give the info for the 1881 census that you have found him on maybe we can help trace him back.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 14:42


Hi Judith
This one?

1881 England Census
about James A. Pollock
Name: James A. Pollock
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Cathrine
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Benfieldside
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 22 West Row Blackhill
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Helping At Shears Iron Works

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James A. Pollock 51
Cathrine Pollock 47
John K. Pollock 15
Edward Traner 20
James Murphy 20



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viv

Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 14:47

yes this is the correct pollock family but i can get no further back.judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 14:58

I am having no luck in finding them in 1871 either.

Have you found any of them on 1911 to try for an area of birth?

Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 15:02

no i have yet to get to kew for that search. is it possible to get the 1911 on internet access?
judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:08

England and Wales have been online quite a while now,but not the Scottish one.
Pay per view only,but free to search.

http://www.1911census.co.uk

Do you know who John K pollock married?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:18

Oh yes you told me in a pm,Catherine campbell.

But his mother Catherine on 1881 says born Ireland not Scotland.

1881 England Census
about Cathrine Pollock
Name: Cathrine Pollock
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James A.
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Benfieldside
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 15:23

thanks for the info re 1911 census.
john kerr pollock married a catherine campbell she was born in durham 1867 and married john in may 1887, she died aged 26, john died aged 33 both from t.b. and starvation!
judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:28

This looks like Johns birth from SP,and the only one with second initial K for that timescale.

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1865 POLLOCK JOHN KERR M COCKPEN /MIDLOTHIAN 676/00 0099 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:29

Want to know what it says?

Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 15:36

apologiesabout catherine - you are right she was from ireland which is why i assume they married in england but i can find no record.
The info you gave me about john - i presume to persue it i will have to join scotlands people or can i order the cert using the info you have given me ( although most of it makes little sense i am assuming he came from cockpen! midlothian.
you are amazing for persuing my "brick wall" thanks
judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:37

Want to know what it says?

Edit ,here is info from it.

John Kerr pollock born 4 / 10 / 1865
Bonnyriggs,cockpen.
Father James Pollock,,paper maker.
Mother catherine Pollock,ms Kerr.

They married in Dalkeith on 2 / 12 /1859

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:41

Their marriage

No Year Surname (M) Forename (M) Surname (F) Forename (F) District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1859 POLLOCK JAMES KERR CATHERINE DALKEITH /MIDLOTHIAN 683/00 0056 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

Back in a bit with the details,then youve had it as thats my spare credits for this month will be done.

Judith

Judith Report 25 Jul 2009 15:46

this makes great sense and explains why john was called kerr as his middle name. I will obviously have to subscribe to sp to get all the info i need but you have opened up a great area of research for me. my mother still lives in durham so perhaps a trip to bonnyriggs would be in order - i don't know how far back the scottish records go but i am very grateful for your efforts. i can't wait to tell my mother as he is her grandfather on the paternal side.
judith

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 15:51

James Pollock,age 30 and Catherine Kerr age 23 married on 2 / 12 / 1859 in the Church of Scotland in Dalkeith
Catherine signed with HER MARK [x].
But James could sign his name.

James parents.

Father,James Pollock,sergeant militia staff.
Mother ,Mary Carrol.

Catherines parents

Father ,John Kerr,deceased.
Mother,Mary Ann Paterson

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 16:00

I FOUND THEM.
And now James says he is born IRELAND.

1861 Scotland Census
about Jas Pollock
Name: Jas Pollock
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Cath
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 676
Registration district: Cockpen
Civil parish: Cockpen
County: Midlothian
Address: Dalhousie Road Bonnyrigg Village
Occupation: Paper Maker
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 199
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_122
Household Members: Name Age
Jas Pollock 31
Cath Pollock 24 <<born Ireland
Mary Ann Kerr 68 <<born Ireland


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Jul 2009 16:08

Change of job and mistranscribed,but same family

1871 Scotland Census
about Jas Pallack
Name: Jas Pallack
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 676
Registration district: Cockpen
Civil parish: Cockpen
County: Midlothian
Address: Bonnyrigg South St
Occupation: Coal Miner & In The Army Retired
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 231
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1871_154
Household Members: Name Age
Jas Pallack 43
Catherine Pallack 36
John Kerr Pallack 5
Margt Jane Pallack 3
Mary Ann Pallack 1
Elizabeth Loundes Ray 9 <<adopted daughter
Thomas Jack 24 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
William Laville 29 lodgers