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22 Jul 2009 20:40 |
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I am trying to fill a gap in my Family History. Can anyone tell me who resided with William Ralph and his wife Jane. In 1881 they lived at 135 Toll End Road, Tipton, Stafford, he was born around 1844 and his occupation was Boatman.
I would also like to know about his son, another William who was born in 1872. He was 20 years old roughly in the 1891 census. By 1901 he was married and living at 172 Whitehall Road, West Bromwich. He too was a canal boatman. It is quite possible he was still living at home, hence my first enquiry.
Can anyone help please. Regards Christine
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22 Jul 2009 20:46 |
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found this so far 1901 England Census about William Ralph Name: William Ralph Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age William Ralph 56 Jane Ralph 55 Joseph E Ralph 28 Elizabeth Ralph 20 Samuel Williams 25 x
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22 Jul 2009 20:46 |
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1891 England Census about William Ralph Name: William Ralph Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Ralph 47 Jane Ralph 45 William Ralph 28 Joseph Ralph 18 Mary Jane Ralph 14 Elizabeth Ralph 10 Maria Wright 64 x
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23 Jul 2009 07:02 |
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Christine
the details for 1901 census;
Address; 42 New road Tipton William; Boatman Captain Joseph; Boatman horse driver
I cant read Samuals job, maybe someone else could help with this?
1891 census details;
Address 26 toll End Rd Tipton
1881 England Census about William Ralph Name: William Ralph Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 135 Toll End Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Boatman Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Ralph 37 Jane Ralph 35 William Ralph 10 Joseph E. Ralph 8 Mary J. Ralph 6 Elizabeth Ralph 1871 England Census about William Ralph Name: William Ralph Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Aston Street and Toll End County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 271 Household Members: Name Age William Ralph 29 Labourer Jane Ralph 25 James Ralph 3 William Ralph 1
The family above him on the census is William Ralph age 30 and his family...poss brother?
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23 Jul 2009 07:10 |
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Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William RALPH Head M Male 37 Oxford, Oxford, England Boatman Jane RALPH Wife M Female 35 Tipton, Stafford, England William RALPH Son Male 10 Tipton, Stafford, England Joseph E. RALPH Son Male 8 Tipton, Stafford, England Mary J. RALPH Daur Female 6 Tipton, Stafford, England Elizabeth RALPH Daur Female 5 m Tipton, Stafford, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 135 Toll End Rd Census Place Tipton, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341687 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2867 / 14 Page Number 24
Births Jun 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William Dudley 6c 31
The district Dudley is an alternative name for Dudley and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Staffordshire and Worcestershire;
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23 Jul 2009 07:15 |
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DUDLEY REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Staffordshire (1837-1912), Worcestershire (1912-66), Staffordshire (1966-74). Created : 1.7.1837. Sub-districts : Brierley Hill; Dudley; Rowley Regis; Sedgley; Tipton; Wordsley. GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1912), 6b (1913-35); 6c (1935-46); 9D (1946-66), 9B (1966-74).
Township or Civil Parish County From To Notes Castle Hill WOR 1837 1889 transferred to STS in 1889 STS 1889 1929 transferred from WOR in 1889 / after 1929 see Dudley (WOR) Coseley STS 1903 1935 before 1903 see Sedgley / transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935 Dudley WOR 1837 1966 transferred to STS in 1966 STS 1966 1974 transferred from WOR in 1966 / transferred to WMD in 1974 Rowley Regis STS 1837 1935 transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935 Sedgley STS 1837 1935 transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935 Tipton STS 1837 1935 transferred to Wednesbury district on 1.4.1935
Registers now divided between Dudley and Sandwell districts.
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23 Jul 2009 07:16 |
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Births Jun 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William Dudley 6c 31 Is this you little William?
And William senior?
Births Sep 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William W Bromwich 18 565
And looks like thier marriage here
Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William Dudley 6c 211 Wagstaff Jane Dudley 6c 211
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23 Jul 2009 07:20 |
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Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bates Sarah Dudley 6c 153 HARRIS Mary Elizabeth Dudley 6c 153 Linford Edward Dudley 6c 153 Ralph William Dudley 6c 153
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23 Jul 2009 07:21 |
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Sablon
can you manage to read the 1901 census; Samuals job, I think it begins with B but wouldnt like to guess?
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23 Jul 2009 11:24 |
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Not the right William I'm afraid. Mine married in December 1892 to Lizzie Maydew - I have a record of that, but thanks for trying. from christine
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23 Jul 2009 11:26 |
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Hi, I'm pretty sure this is my family from other papers I have. William's birth place is given as Oxford but in fact it was Ocker Hill, Tipton. I guess the enumerator mis heard. from christine
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23 Jul 2009 11:32 |
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Births Sep 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William Dudley 18 322
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23 Jul 2009 11:34 |
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Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MAYDEW Lissie Dudley 6c 171 RALPH William Dudley 6c 171
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23 Jul 2009 11:40 |
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Deaths Mar 1883 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William 23 Dudley 6c 29
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William Henry 1 Bromsgrove 6c 195
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph William 73 Dudley 6c 7
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24 Jul 2009 08:01 |
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Yep! This is my grandparents. Thank you for your trouble. From Christine
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24 Jul 2009 08:11 |
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christine you say he was not born oxford.How do you know this? Have you his marrige cert ?
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Christine
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25 Jul 2009 22:30 |
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His residence at the time of marriage - I do have that certificate - was Ocker Hill. I had absolutely no luck tracing the family in Oxford and think it likely that the census enumerator mis-heard Ocker. Unfortunately that area of Tipton, Staffs. was awash with Ralphs so it is difficult to get a hold of the correct family.
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