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1891 census look up

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Christine

Christine Report 22 Jul 2009 20:40

I am trying to fill a gap in my Family History. Can anyone tell me who resided with William Ralph and his wife Jane. In 1881 they lived at 135 Toll End Road, Tipton, Stafford, he was born around 1844 and his occupation was Boatman.

I would also like to know about his son, another William who was born in 1872. He was 20 years old roughly in the 1891 census. By 1901 he was married and living at 172 Whitehall Road, West Bromwich. He too was a canal boatman. It is quite possible he was still living at home, hence my first enquiry.

Can anyone help please.
Regards
Christine

Gee

Gee Report 22 Jul 2009 20:46

found this so far
1901 England Census
about William Ralph
Name: William Ralph
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
William Ralph 56
Jane Ralph 55
Joseph E Ralph 28
Elizabeth Ralph 20
Samuel Williams 25


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Gee

Gee Report 22 Jul 2009 20:46

1891 England Census
about William Ralph
Name: William Ralph
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Ralph 47
Jane Ralph 45
William Ralph 28
Joseph Ralph 18
Mary Jane Ralph 14
Elizabeth Ralph 10
Maria Wright 64


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Gee

Gee Report 23 Jul 2009 07:02

Christine

the details for 1901 census;

Address; 42 New road Tipton
William; Boatman Captain
Joseph; Boatman horse driver

I cant read Samuals job, maybe someone else could help with this?

1891 census details;

Address 26 toll End Rd Tipton




1881 England Census
about William Ralph
Name: William Ralph
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 135 Toll End Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Boatman

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Ralph 37
Jane Ralph 35
William Ralph 10
Joseph E. Ralph 8
Mary J. Ralph 6
Elizabeth Ralph


1871 England Census
about William Ralph
Name: William Ralph
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Aston Street and Toll End
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 271
Household Members: Name Age
William Ralph 29 Labourer
Jane Ralph 25
James Ralph 3
William Ralph 1

The family above him on the census is William Ralph age 30 and his family...poss brother?

Ginny

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sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 07:10

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William RALPH Head M Male 37 Oxford, Oxford, England Boatman
Jane RALPH Wife M Female 35 Tipton, Stafford, England
William RALPH Son Male 10 Tipton, Stafford, England
Joseph E. RALPH Son Male 8 Tipton, Stafford, England
Mary J. RALPH Daur Female 6 Tipton, Stafford, England
Elizabeth RALPH Daur Female 5 m Tipton, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 135 Toll End Rd
Census Place Tipton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341687
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2867 / 14
Page Number 24



Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Ralph William Dudley 6c 31


The district Dudley is an alternative name for Dudley and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Staffordshire and Worcestershire;

sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 07:15

DUDLEY REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Staffordshire (1837-1912), Worcestershire (1912-66), Staffordshire (1966-74).
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Brierley Hill; Dudley; Rowley Regis; Sedgley; Tipton; Wordsley.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1912), 6b (1913-35); 6c (1935-46); 9D (1946-66), 9B (1966-74).

Township or Civil Parish
County
From
To
Notes

Castle Hill
WOR
1837
1889
transferred to STS in 1889
STS
1889
1929
transferred from WOR in 1889 / after 1929 see Dudley (WOR)
Coseley
STS
1903
1935
before 1903 see Sedgley / transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935

Dudley
WOR
1837
1966
transferred to STS in 1966

STS
1966
1974
transferred from WOR in 1966 / transferred to WMD in 1974

Rowley Regis
STS
1837
1935
transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935

Sedgley
STS
1837
1935
transferred to Rowley Regis district on 1.4.1935

Tipton
STS
1837
1935
transferred to Wednesbury district on 1.4.1935


Registers now divided between Dudley and Sandwell districts.

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jul 2009 07:16

Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Ralph William Dudley 6c 31
Is this you little William?

And William senior?

Births Sep 1845 (>99%)
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Ralph William W Bromwich 18 565

And looks like thier marriage here

Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Ralph William Dudley 6c 211

Wagstaff Jane Dudley 6c 211



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sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 07:20

Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Bates Sarah Dudley 6c 153
HARRIS Mary Elizabeth Dudley 6c 153
Linford Edward Dudley 6c 153
Ralph William Dudley 6c 153

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jul 2009 07:21

Sablon

can you manage to read the 1901 census; Samuals job, I think it begins with B but wouldnt like to guess?

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sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 11:24

Not the right William I'm afraid. Mine married in December 1892 to Lizzie Maydew - I have a record of that, but thanks for trying.
from christine

sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 11:26

Hi, I'm pretty sure this is my family from other papers I have. William's birth place is given as Oxford but in fact it was Ocker Hill, Tipton. I guess the enumerator mis heard.
from christine

sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 11:32

Births Sep 1842 (>99%)
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Ralph William Dudley 18 322

sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 11:34

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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MAYDEW Lissie Dudley 6c 171
RALPH William Dudley 6c 171

sablon

sablon Report 23 Jul 2009 11:40

Deaths Mar 1883 (99%)
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Ralph William 23 Dudley 6c 29

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Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Ralph William Henry 1 Bromsgrove 6c 195

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Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Ralph William 73 Dudley 6c 7

sablon

sablon Report 24 Jul 2009 08:01

Yep! This is my grandparents. Thank you for your trouble.
From Christine

sablon

sablon Report 24 Jul 2009 08:11

christine
you say he was not born oxford.How do you know this?
Have you his marrige cert ?

Christine

Christine Report 25 Jul 2009 22:30

His residence at the time of marriage - I do have that certificate - was Ocker Hill. I had absolutely no luck tracing the family in Oxford and think it likely that the census enumerator mis-heard Ocker. Unfortunately that area of Tipton, Staffs. was awash with Ralphs so it is difficult to get a hold of the correct family.